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Jesus, this is driving me mad.  So I know it's an older post but been a frustrating few days.  I've tried the hose trick first with 22mm hose, very difficult to get the hose on, then when I did could barely turn the screws on the clips to tighten up, when I thought it was tight enough, took for a spin, steam everywhere ...nightmare.

 

I removed the hose, had to cut the bugger off, went to ford bought o rings and clips as suggested, o rings didn't seem to fit and then pipes won't sit flush again.    In at my wits end with this and I'm normally okay doing small jobs on the car it's really testing my patience, Ford wanted to fit a new matrix £1100 upwards hence why I'm determined to sort this, I'm fairly tall so it's location isn't helping.  

 

Any tips or anybody who's done the hose fix near Liverpool who wants to help you're more than welcome.

 

I cannot even put into words how annoying this procedure has been 

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On 7/30/2019 at 7:20 PM, vindi93 said:

Yeah i bought 19mm lol it was nightmare to get them on did it in the end but 22mm is the way forward.

Hello

Iam going to be attempting this tomorrow. I have bought 22mm flexible heater pipe an the clamps. Once the old clips come off, do the pipes pull apart fairly easy? 

 

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2 hours ago, Focuszetecsab22 said:

Hey everyone, just wondering if the heater matrix is covered by warranty please? 

On a 2013 model you're well out of manufacturer warranty.  Do you have an aftermarket warranty?  If so you'd have to check with them specifically.

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Hi, had the same problem with my 2011 1.0 ecoboost mk3 Focus. Thanks for all the information already given in this post. Thought I would feed some information back. My expansion tank was empty, only noticed when I was not getting hot air into the car on short journeys. Traced the leak to the uppermost heater matrix pipe. The footwell soundproofing under the carpet in the driver's footwell was soaking, but not the carpet as the fluid drips down behind the carpet.

Phoned the local Ford dealer's spares department, and as expected they were saying about replacing the matrix etc etc 🤑🤑. Asked them for 2 of the Mk2 O rings, which were just short of £10!!! I had to start somewhere. I couldn't find anywhere on the internet where the size was specified to source a cheaper alternative so I've measured them.

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When I got to the replacement it looked like the original washer was not inserted correctly as it looked crushed between the male and female part of the upper pipe. The lower pipe washer which I also replaced was correctly fitted. It is awkward, but with the use of an small inspection mirror I could check the groove in the female/lower pipe was clean. The O rings were a little difficult to get in as yes, as stated in another post, they seem too big, but once they're in the groove they sit in there quite well. I was concerned how much space I would get between the pipes but there is a small amount of movement from the pipes that go through the bulkhead. I used a small hook to sit the ring in the groove.

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I hope these images help. Oh by the way, I re-used the original clips. 

 

EDIT : Sorry, my photos don't seem to have pasted?????

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25 minutes ago, Congers said:

Hi, had the same problem with my 2011 1.0 ecoboost mk3 Focus. Thanks for all the information already given in this post. Thought I would feed some information back. My expansion tank was empty, only noticed when I was not getting hot air into the car on short journeys. Traced the leak to the uppermost heater matrix pipe. The footwell soundproofing under the carpet in the driver's footwell was soaking, but not the carpet as the fluid drips down behind the carpet.

Phoned the local Ford dealer's spares department, and as expected they were saying about replacing the matrix etc etc 🤑🤑. Asked them for 2 of the Mk2 O rings, which were just short of £10!!! I had to start somewhere. I couldn't find anywhere on the internet where the size was specified to source a cheaper alternative so I've measured them.

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When I got to the replacement it looked like the original washer was not inserted correctly as it looked crushed between the male and female part of the upper pipe. The lower pipe washer which I also replaced was correctly fitted. It is awkward, but with the use of an small inspection mirror I could check the groove in the female/lower pipe was clean. The O rings were a little difficult to get in as yes, as stated in another post, they seem too big, but once they're in the groove they sit in there quite well. I was concerned how much space I would get between the pipes but there is a small amount of movement from the pipes that go through the bulkhead. I used a small hook to sit the ring in the groove.

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I hope these images help. Oh by the way, I re-used the original clips. 

 

EDIT : Sorry, my photos don't seem to have pasted?????

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Got a Ford Focus lx mk2 2005 leaking coolant all over the driver footwell do you cut the aluminium pipe to fit rubber hose  then jubilee clip it doing my head in had to by pass it at bulk head at the moment but with the ***** weather can’t see out the window when driving thanks 😡😡😡

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Hi, thanks for all the info shared on this so far, I too have the same issue with coolant leaking into my drivers footwell (focus mk3).  Please could someone advise the best way to remove the trim/panel to access the pipes?

thanks

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On 1/15/2020 at 2:01 AM, Cravo said:

Hi, thanks for all the info shared on this so far, I too have the same issue with coolant leaking into my drivers footwell (focus mk3).  Please could someone advise the best way to remove the trim/panel to access the pipes?

thanks

I have the same issue on a 2013 Focus Mk3, going to try the heater hose and hose clamp method, will keep you posted on the both panel removal and the hose replacement!

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On 1/25/2020 at 2:04 AM, Lifebyvince said:

I have the same issue on a 2013 Focus Mk3, going to try the heater hose and hose clamp method, will keep you posted on the both panel removal and the hose replacement!

How did it go?

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just wanted to say hi and let everyone know that after 5 hours of a fight with my ford focus the leak from the pipes going the heater is fixed.

 

it was oring completely missing on the top pipe which was leaking. I have replaced also the oring in the bottom pipe while I was already doing the job. 

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Hi,

I have a 2012 Focus car is never had a problem but this antifreeze leak. So

I initially tried replacing O rings on both pipes and that worked for few days and then again leaked slowly.

I then tried to do the fix provided here with the rubber hose and that seemed really good until it started leaking after a good 60 miles trip.

i'm not sure what else to try this is really driving me mad. i spoke to someone on facebook who does replace the whole matrix by taking out the whole dashboard etc and got a quote for labour a £300, and when asked if this may happen again in the future he said well you should get the new heater matrix type which has no pipes joining such as your current one.

He didn't tell me where to find it he just said on the internet, any ideas?

Thanks

 

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Hello, had same issue with my C-Max, so drained coolant as best I could, and then cut off the upsets on the two pipes with a dremel (pig of a job!).

then sleeved both pipes using heater hose, but I slapped on some LSX sealant first. Then used jubilee clips and horsed them up using a socket (get more purchase on them vs screwdriver).

Allowed to set for about 2 hours, refilled coolant and job done.

I am an Engineer and total time was 4-5 hours, just zero room and I had to lay on my back inside the footwell, using a tie wrap to hold back the clutch.

Small orings like this don’t last, didn’t want to do this job again so I prefer the sleeved solution.
Good luck!

Ps. I stuck on some jubilee clips which aren’t doing anything (middle ones), but should there ever be a need for them I can use them ASAP. As it stands, only 2 clips per pipe are actually tightened.

https://ibb.co/7X4yk5J

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