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I thought some of you might find this interesting - the historic partnership between my two favourite car manufacturers: Lotus and Ford.

 

Duration: 1967-1983, Titles: 9, Wins: 47, Poles: 56, Podiums: 97

 

It’s been called the best engine in F1 history – and for good reason. For more than a quarter of a century, Cosworth’s DFV (and it’s variants) was the off-the-peg powerplant of choice for independent F1 teams, driving the likes of McLaren, Williams and Tyrrell to wins and world titles. But the team most synonymous with the engine was the one that brought it to F1 in the first place: Lotus. The partnership began after Lotus team chief Colin Chapman proposed to Cosworth that they design a brand-new F1 unit, which was to be funded by Ford. Chapman had high hopes - and he wasn’t to be disappointed. When the engine was finally bolted into one of his cars three races into the 1967 season in the Netherlands, Lotus proved the clear class of the field, with Graham Hill taking pole and team mate Jim Clark the victory. It was to be the first of 47 victories for the partnership, which lasted until the end of 1983 and included four drivers’ and five constructors’ titles.

 

From: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.the-best-engine-partnerships-in-f1-history.3GZEdUWfDOCMGuWcAYKMyA.html

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I used to think cosworth were a separate company which used to tune fords. I remember them going with subaru to make a impreza cosworth On one program I was watching they were saying the escort cosworth or Sierra cosworth was a rediculously fast car back in its time that I think I was faster or as quick as a ferrari made back then. 

You should put pics up of your lotus. Would be interesting to see. Someone off my road used to own one but as time went on I can't see it anymore. Lately I've been seeing a mk6 ST parked up on my road 🤣

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On 11/25/2018 at 11:17 AM, zain611 said:
You should put pics up of your lotus. Would be interesting to see. 

Here you go.

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20 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:
Nice one! What circuit are you on there?

That photo was taken at Castle Combe - my local circuit. In the last couple of years I've been trying other circuits too, including Goodwood and Silverstone. If I'm honest though that car is better suited to the historic circuits. 

 

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Yes, I can imagine it would be better on the tighter circuits which call for handling rather than outright power.. I've had a few goes on track over the years and preferred the likes of Cadwell and Mallory to Silverstone or Donington. 

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2 hours ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

Yes, I can imagine it would be better on the tighter circuits which call for handling rather than outright power.. I've had a few goes on track over the years and preferred the likes of Cadwell and Mallory to Silverstone or Donington. 

Castle Combe is good, but Goodwood is my favourite so far. Much more flowing and a beautifully restored vintage track.

Interestingly, my Elise and my Fiesta ST have the exactly the same bhp per tonne. The Lotus is a second faster to 60 though, I assume because it gets its power down better through the rear wheels. I've not taken the ST on track, but I doubt it would keep up with the Lotus, especially in the corners.

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I generally SORN it between the end of October and the beginning of April. Track days do continue over the Winter, but I'm a fair weather track driver 😉

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For winter I'd try to wax and seal the car. Helps to stop that salty grit from attaching in the car. Also try to keep a rinse bucket with warm water. Can't get warm water in the wash bucket as the hose only let's out cold water and that hose pressure helps create nice thick suds from the soap

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After 14 years, 65,000 miles and 13 track days I've sold my Elise. We waved goodbye to it this morning having sold it for more than we paid for it in 2005.  It really was part of the family, and our 9 year old daughter actually cried last night when I told her someone was coming to look at it today. :cry:

This week's track day at Brands Hatch was a fitting end to Elise ownership, and also a good excuse to start the Caterham adventure by spending 3 hours at Caterham South test driving and discussing options. I'm currently looking at ordering a Gulf Blue 310R.

Given the waiting time for a new Seven it's going to be a good opportunity to sort out the garage - both in terms of shelving and getting the floor painted/sealed.

I'll miss the Elise, but being a bit of a Ford and Lotus nut, the prospect of owning a Fiesta ST and a Ford-engined Seven really appeals. Right now though, the garage looks very empty...

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You did well getting more than what you paid for 👍. I think I'd feel it also if I had a car for that long and selling it. I'm sure the Caterham will feel more of a go kart when you own it. 

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5 hours ago, zain611 said:

I'm sure the Caterham will feel more of a go kart when you own it. 

When I test drove the 310R demonstrator on Wednesday it actually felt nothing like a go kart. With lowered floors and racing harnesses you're secured very low down in the car, and the long bonnet makes you feel more like a fighter pilot. It's quite a special experience.

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Wow! That certainly looks like something to look forward to - hope you can handle waiting that long! When do you anticipate taking delivery?

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Probably not until late Jan/early Feb!

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Ouch, that's a long time! I'm sure it will be worth the wait but surely it's going to be hard to remain patient.

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Have to say the these cars really are good on running costs. Can't remember what model I looked at but it has no tax. 

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I don't think any have no tax (perhaps the 160 they don't sell anymore?). I believe the 310 will be £145. It's a 1.6L Ford Sigma, but unlike the 270 has the 152bhp upgrade: https://caterhamparts.co.uk/other/6493-upgrade-kit-sigma-ta-152bhp.html

You're right about costs though - it should be considerably less than the Elise it replaces, and easier to work on at home.

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I guess it depends if you want to drive it to tracks.  No need to tax it if it's stored off-road and trailered everywhere.  They'll all be £145 flat tax (after first year) as with all new cars at the moment.

What are the fuel costs out of interest?  Both road & track?  Guessing they should be pretty efficient on the road with a small engine and weighing very little?

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It'll be used on road and on track. I'm hoping to use this one a bit more at weekends too. I've no idea what the fuel economy is. In the Lotus I was getting about 36mpg on the road. On track I was using about 6L every 20 mins, whatever that works out at...

 

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Well it turns out my parents owned an R reg Elise in BR Green with gold wheels in 1998, just before I was born! Had to get rid of it when I came along, was traded for a 1.8 Mondeo LX (T370 JUK) which my dad says was a bit of a disappointment.

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