Evidence of BBC left wing leanings against big successful 'green' business. A scaremongering headline, for what is little more than a minor 'over the air' software update, which many Fords go through frequently...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-62996103

Similar to Stephen,s post but with extra content.

https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/22/tesla_update_nhtsa_fingers/

And that’s not the only fire Tesla is trying to put out this week. On Tuesday, a Tesla Megapack battery at a California substation literally caught fire, driving officials to close several roads and instate a shelter-in-place order in the Moss Landing area of Monterey Bay.

The inferno at the 182.5 MW facility, operated by Pacific Gas and Electric, reportedly took roughly 20 hours to contain, partially because the standard practice for containing lithium-ion battery fires is to allow them to burn out.

The Register has reached out to Tesla for further comment regarding the recall and over-the-air update. Given the biz binned its media relations team in 2020, we might as well sent our request to /dev/null. ®

 

While Tesla is combating finger-pinching glitches, Toyota this week is once again facing a hardware problem.

According to Reuters, Toyota may be forced to shutter its 10 production lines at seven Japanese factories for a period of up to 12 days as a result of an ongoing chip shortage.

While supplies of some chips may be improving, shortages of other components continue to dog the auto industry. Reuters reports that Toyota now expects to produce roughly 800,000 vehicles globally in October, around 100,000 fewer than expected.

In July the automaker blamed a combination of semiconductor shortages and COVID-19 for ongoing production challenges, which have stretched for months now.

Another report on this.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90792200/tesla-recall-1-million-vehicles-windows-software?utm_source=newsletters&utm_medium=email&leadId=550903&mkt_tok=NjEwLUxFRS04NzIAAAGHCSXaATJ8rJgXd4FFIXeGbjqlquHQ8_y58FfDR79cpyqFbivdM1A5RbSuDo4L2ODDw6qClkCGjsJN0yq-8V3KTkFFnhS_j3yPVoPVmQ

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Tesla just recalled one-third of all the cars it’s ever produced

A software glitch means the power window could close on people’s fingers while automatically retracting. Tesla plans an over-the-air update.

By Clint Rainey1 minute Read

Today, Tesla warned electric vehicle owners that if they’re betting people, the odds are pretty decent—about than 1 in 3—that their car has a glitch that could cause the power window to close on their fingers while automatically retracting.

 

 

The U.S. government’s auto-safety regulator, the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA), warns if the window detects an obstruction, it may “exert more force than [permitted] before retracting,” and also “retract less than the distance required” by law. The agency adds this increases the “risk of a pinching injury to the occupant.”

The carmaker responded by agreeing to recall, in a notice released today, nearly 1.1 million EVs under all four Tesla models—the S, 3, X, and Y. Which exact years vary model to model, but they span from 2017 until 2022. Tesla has produced just over 3 million cars since first launching the S in 2012.

In the recall, Tesla says it plans to fix this problem with a so-called over-the-air update, which is akin to how an iPhone bug gets resolved, not an issue requiring a Tesla service center visit.

 

 

As the top EV company, Tesla is seemingly always breaking its last sales record, but constantly also doing so while its trendy cars are plagued by yet another round of troubling software glitches and recalls—almost like they’re actively searching for ways to endanger their owners, like Elon Musk’s very own fleet of Christines.

Tesla has had to issue at least 10 recalls in the past 10 months. At this point, if you own the wrong Tesla and haven’t updated it, you might be driving a car that could decide to not tell you your seat belt came unfastened, not defrost your windshield properly, refuse to deploy the airbag if the windows were rolled down, disobey stop signs, or even careen into first responders’ vehicles at crash sites where there were emergency lights and cones. In December, the carmaker recalled 356,000 Model 3s because the rear-view camera could be damaged by opening and closing the trunk, and 110,000 Model Ss because the front hood might open all by itself. Tesla told the NHTSA that the defects only affected an estimated 1% of those Model 3s, and 14% of the Model Ss.

However, 100% of the 1.1 million Teslas identified in Thursday’s recall are believed to be affected.

https://www.techspot.com/news/96080-tesla-owner-refuses-pay-20000-new-battery-gets.html

Tesla owner refuses to pay over $21,000 for a new battery, gets locked out of his car

"Stay the f**k away from Teslas"

By Rob Thubron September 23, 2022 at 6:55 AM

WTF?! A Tesla owner has seen his TikTok video about the car's apparent shortcomings go viral. Mario Zelaya said that he had been locked out of his Tesla Model S after the battery died, which would have cost him $21,000 to replace.

Zelaya, who lives in Toronto, Canada, said he paid $140,000 (Canadian) for the brand-new car back in 2013. According to Elon Musk, the batteries in these cards are designed to run for 300,000 to 500,000 miles or about 21 to 25 years before they have to be replaced. But Zelaya's EV needed a new one after just 77,000 miles.

Zelaya said the problem is that some 2013 and 2014 Tesla Model S vehicles had an issue in which fluid from the air conditioning system's drainage hose dripped onto the battery, causing it to rust—technicians at the Transport Canada regulatory agency confirmed this was why his battery died.

Zelaya took the car to Tesla after a "high voltage battery" warning message appeared, only to be told the warranty didn't cover it. He asked for a free battery, but the request was refused, leaving him with the option of paying over $21,000 for a replacement or selling the car.

@supermariozelaya Replying to @Mario Zelaya Here's an update and some clarifications on my dead ' Tesla. Also, someone is buying it tomorrow for $19K and is taking on the responsibility of opening up the car. I got 85 messages on FB Marketplace on it .... Guess I'm selling it for cheap? #tesla #car ♬ original sound - Mario Zelaya

With the battery dead, Zelaya could not access the vehicle or even get to the ownership documents inside. He says it would not respond to a charge, either. "This is why you should never buy a Tesla, people," he said in the video.

The owner believes the leaking and rusting started when the car was in the warranty period. Zelaya also claims that Tesla canceled his Uber credits, which were received when he went to get the car serviced, after he kept asking why the car needed a new battery.

Zelaya acknowledges that he could have accessed the Tesla by removing the front bumper or going in through the tire well but "didn't have time for that."

The situation ended when Zelaya sold the car after paying $30 for new ownership documents. It seems the new owner did find time to remove the bumper to gain access.

It seems unlikely that Zelaya will return to the car brand in the future: "I'll never buy another Tesla again," he said. "That's the long way of me saying stay the f**k away from Teslas. They're brutal cars, brutal manufacturing, and even worse, they're a 10-year-old company."

Last year, a Finnish man teamed up with a YouTube explosives channel to blow up his 2013 Tesla Model S after discovering he would have a buy a $22,600 battery because it had "outlasted its 8-year warranty."

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12 minutes ago, eddie eastwood said:

after discovering he would have a buy a $22,600 battery because it had "outlasted its 8-year warranty."

It makes the cost of a new wet timing belt for an Ecoboost at £1500 seem very reasonable 🤣

Battery cars now the same price to run/mile as petrol ones.... oopppssss LOL

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63029226

Well Stephen, I know you are clutching at any nugget of information that appears to support your view regarding the folly of switching to fully electric cars but if you read the whole article it's clear that's true only for those who use public fast chargers. Also that cost is only for fuel so doesn't factor in the VED (you may argue that when the majority are EV VED will be raised for them - that's a given - but at the moment I believe EVs are zero-rated and don't have to pay LEZ taxes).

38 minutes ago, mjt said:

Well Stephen, I know you are clutching at any nugget of information that appears to support your view regarding the folly of switching to fully electric cars...

Yes, I know, but the fact remains that from 'cradle to grave' battery cars are the same as petrol ones. Kinda like the NHS (free at the point of delivery). Petrol cars offer honest emissions at source of their tailpipe, whereas battery ones front end their emissions at manufacture, and then of course, in the production of electric to actually charge the little blighters...

4 hours ago, StephenFord said:

whereas battery ones front end their emissions at manufacture, and then of course, in the production of electric to actually charge the little blighters...

In only another 2 years or so it will be interesting to see what many owners of Tesla's decide to do when they need to spend around £20,000 on a new battery pack. Cradle to the grave may be a much shorter 'life' for them.

I have just discovered that from 25th December 2025, all EV's will cease to get into the London ULEZ zone free any longer. They will incur the standard 'congestion zone' charge. Merry Christmas guys...

https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transparency/freedom-of-information/foi-request-detail?referenceId=FOI-0573-2021

Well I wouldn't drive into London anyway so I'm saved from that nightmare .

9 hours ago, iantt said:

Well I wouldn't drive into London anyway so I'm saved from that nightmare .

Same here, only ever been once and that was for a football match and I can't see me going there again.

1 minute ago, Wino said:

Same here, only ever been once and that was for a football match and I can't see me going there again.

So, the English guys here don't go near London, but the Northern Irish guy use to live & work there LOL You couldn't make it up 🤣

11 hours ago, StephenFord said:

I have just discovered that from 25th December 2025, all EV's will cease to get into the London ULEZ zone free any longer. They will incur the standard 'congestion zone' charge. Merry Christmas guys...

https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transparency/freedom-of-information/foi-request-detail?referenceId=FOI-0573-2021

Congestion is caused by the number of vehicles clogging up central London.  It has nothing to do with emissions, that's what the ULEZ charge is for.

9 hours ago, iantt said:

Well I wouldn't drive into London anyway so I'm saved from that nightmare .

I heard you were in the US this week! 😮 

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4 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

Congestion is caused by the number of vehicles clogging up central London.  It has nothing to do with emissions, that's what the ULEZ charge is for.

Yep, as stated in the very 1st paragraph of the attached link in my post... 👍

"The Congestion Charge is not an emissions based scheme but rather a charge for driving in the zone."

27 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

So, the English guys here don't go near London, but the Northern Irish guy use to live & work there LOL You couldn't make it up 🤣

I've no reason to go there whatsoever. So I don't see the point of travelling 200+ miles for nowt. Lol.

There are quite a few things I'd like to see in London.  But I'd hate all the people and traffic and high-rise buildings even if I could get there.

Have been a few times when I was much younger.  Last time I went was 2003, school trip to the natural history museum.  Also went a year or two before that for my sister's birthday...only thing I remember from the trip is sitting in a cafe on the South Bank next to Barry Cryer.  

45 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

...only thing I remember from the trip is sitting in a cafe on the South Bank next to Barry Cryer.  

Was it alright on the night?? LOL

1 hour ago, TomsFocus said:

Congestion is caused by the number of vehicles clogging up central London.  It has nothing to do with emissions, that's what the ULEZ charge is for

Actually the two things are separate. The ULEZ is for controlling emissions in densely populated areas and the Congestion Zone is what it says on the tin.

3 minutes ago, mjt said:

Actually the two things are separate. The ULEZ is for controlling emissions in densely populated areas and the Congestion Zone is what it says on the tin.

mmm... yep, I though we'd already clarified that LOL (see above few posts!)

5 minutes ago, mjt said:

Actually the two things are separate.

That's literally what my post says... 

7 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

Was it alright on the night?? LOL

That was a different old white guy with grey hair and glasses!  

Oops! Yes, I misread your post. Apologies!

6 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

That was a different old white guy with grey hair and glasses!  

LOL, yes indeed, Denis Norden! Still, Barry was awfully witty...