I will never say never but I think it’s a fair bet there won’t be anymore lockdowns👍

Freedom of information request 17371 Covid deaths on death certificate only up to September 2021

Average age 82.5

In a separate on the record disclosure from Professor Karol Sikora world leading  cancer specialist has said 50,000 more cancer deaths that wouldn’t have died due to no or late consultation during the 18 months of the pandemic.

Main stream media staying quiet on this mind blowing information so far.However I don’t think it’s surprising since they all wanted harder and more restrictions on our lives and thought if we didn’t lockdown permanently it would be the demise of the human race.

 

1 minute ago, williamweb said:

Main stream media staying quiet on this mind blowing information so far....

Unfortunately, not mind blowing. I stated on this very thread last year, that due to shutting down of the NHS and converting to a national covid service, deaths from undiagnosed cancer and heart disease would eventually dwarf the deaths of Covid - I was laughed at... I still wish I had have been wrong.

On 1/20/2022 at 3:41 PM, StephenFord said:

Unfortunately, not mind blowing. I stated on this very thread last year, that due to shutting down of the NHS and converting to a national covid service, deaths from undiagnosed cancer and heart disease would eventually dwarf the deaths of Covid - I was laughed at... I still wish I had have been wrong.

I know,I think there is tangible  evidence now rather than speculation.

36 minutes ago, williamweb said:

Covid deaths on death certificate only up to September 2022.

Average age 82.5

It's good to know what we can expect for the coming year 🤣

1 minute ago, unofix said:

It's good to know what we can expect for the coming year 🤣

I know it was a typo, but to be honest, the average age has not changed since covid 1st hit in March 2020...

5 minutes ago, unofix said:

It's good to know what we can expect for the coming year 🤣

Oh s……! that was my crystal ball i had for Christmas 😂

2 hours ago, williamweb said:

Freedom of information request 17371 Covid deaths on death certificate only up to September 2021

Average age 82.5

In a separate on the record disclosure from Professor Karol Sikora world leading  cancer specialist has said 50,000 more cancer deaths that wouldn’t have died due to no or late consultation during the 18 months of the pandemic.

Main stream media staying quiet on this mind blowing information so far.However I don’t think it’s surprising since they all wanted harder and more restrictions on our lives and thought if we didn’t lockdown permanently it would be the demise of the human race.

 

That figure is about the same as the average death age before Covid, so I don't know what it proves.

As well as being a well known critic of the NHS, Karol Sikora was the one of the doctors that was paid by the Libyan government to say that the Lockerbie bomber had only had 3 months to live and should be released from prison, he died almost 3 years later - nuff said. 

36 minutes ago, Tizer said:

That figure is about the same as the average death age before Covid, so I don't know what it proves.

As well as being a well known critic of the NHS, Karol Sikora was the one of the doctors that was paid by the Libyan government to say that the Lockerbie bomber had only had 3 months to live and should be released from prison, he died almost 3 years later - nuff said. 

 

50,000 premature deaths from cancer so far-fact.

6 million on the NHS waiting list -fact.

Covid deaths are going to be minor compared to the consequences of the last 18 months fiasco.

It's worth noting that it's not only deaths that are the problem with Covid. 

Many that survive Covid are ending up with long Covid, reducing their quality of life, often stopping them working (or having to change role) and having a wider impact on others by needing care or extra childcare etc.  Likely to be in the millions with long Covid now...and none of us know yet whether it'll be permanent or not. 

1 hour ago, williamweb said:

 

50,000 premature deaths from cancer so far-fact

Source?

1 hour ago, williamweb said:

6 million on the NHS waiting list -fact.

I can believe that and the longer the Tinfoil on the head brigade keep up their behaviour the longer this list will get.  I don't know why some people feel the need to pee on their own chips as well as everyone else's.

54 minutes ago, Tizer said:

Source?

I can believe that and the longer the Tinfoil on the head brigade keep up their behaviour the longer this list will get.  I don't know why some people feel the need to pee on their own chips as well as everyone else's.

Source-Dr John Campbell.I now understand the 50000 deaths is in years to come rather than now as stated as fact by me-so I apologise to you for that👍

However I stand by everything else.The first lockdown was just about justifiable.The others not so.In my opinion lockdowns and face masks will be shown not to have worked when looking at everything in the round.
 

 

2 minutes ago, williamweb said:

...face masks will be shown not to have worked when looking at everything in the round.

Actually, a whole new multi £Million industry has been built up around masks, and made many politicians friends extremely wealthy, so, not a total disaster! LOL

7 minutes ago, williamweb said:

Source-Dr John Campbell

No disrespect to any of the regulars on this Forum but you are all lightweights when it comes to Covid misinformation, I know people who are hardcore Anti everything to do with Covid and Dr John Campbell is quoted a lot by them. You can read into that what you want.

The following article on the same subject was published in the Lancet and was put together by more than one person, but it was done so in 2020 so may not be relevant now. I have not had time to digest the findings yet.  https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(20)30388-0/fulltext

My opinion regarding lockdowns is that they were put in place to slow down and spread out things timewise so that the Health Services did not get completely overwhelmed because the inevitable happened to far to many people all at the same time.

As for Facemasks, I have my own extremely strong anecdotal evidence that even the blue 3 ply ones were very effective against the variant that was doing the rounds in October 2020, that doesn't mean that they are as good now against other variants.  

1 minute ago, Tizer said:

As for Facemasks, I have my own extremely strong anecdotal evidence that even the blue 3 ply ones were very effective against the variant that was doing the rounds in October 2020, that doesn't mean that they are as good now against other variants.  

There is absolute empirical evidence on the uselessness of mask wearing for the general public demonstrated by an experiment involving over 200 Million people.

In January 2021, Austria, Germany, France and Italy all mandated proper FFP2 medical masks to be worn by the general public. (not the bits of flimsy face coverings we were asked to wear). ALL saw a rise in infection rates, Austria to the extent they locked down. If they worked, infection rates would have dropped.

Masks do work in a medically controlled environment, but not for general public use where folk don't adjust them correctly, constantly touch them, and wear them for weeks on end rather than swap out every 3 to 4 hours.

Of course, I'm a lightweight so just take the above with a pinch of salt 🤣

9 hours ago, Tizer said:

No disrespect to any of the regulars on this Forum but you are all lightweights when it comes to Covid misinformation, I know people who are hardcore Anti everything to do with Covid and Dr John Campbell is quoted a lot by them. You can read into that what you want.

The following article on the same subject was published in the Lancet and was put together by more than one person, but it was done so in 2020 so may not be relevant now. I have not had time to digest the findings yet.  https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(20)30388-0/fulltext

My opinion regarding lockdowns is that they were put in place to slow down and spread out things timewise so that the Health Services did not get completely overwhelmed because the inevitable happened to far to many people all at the same time.

As for Facemasks, I have my own extremely strong anecdotal evidence that even the blue 3 ply ones were very effective against the variant that was doing the rounds in October 2020, that doesn't mean that they are as good now against other variants.  

Ha ha this is a general chat forum and you are calling people on here lightweight

                                              😂😂😂

There was no intention to mislead.I seen an inaccuracy after a prompt from you and apologised.

 

 

Reading my local rag online this AM, allegedly from june LFT's are no longer to be free. £30.00 is the mooted cost WTF

1 minute ago, JImpster said:

Reading my local rag online this AM, allegedly from june LFT's are no longer to be free. £30.00 is the mooted cost WTF

Stock up now whilst they are 'free', you can re-order every 48 hours, full your cupboards till they are stuffed. Then next year, put them on Ebay as, 'vintage medical test that never worked in the first place', and start the bidding at £1 LOL

4 minutes ago, JImpster said:

Reading my local rag online this AM, allegedly from june LFT's are no longer to be free. £30.00 is the mooted cost WTF

As long as you keep wearing your mask you’ll be fine😁

53 minutes ago, williamweb said:

As long as you keep wearing your mask you’ll be fine😁

Masks are not mandatory now, people are now free to do as they please ..... no change there then

10 minutes ago, JImpster said:

Masks are not mandatory now, people are now free to do as they please ..... no change there then

Masks have always had an 'exception clause', which allowed in law to be unchallenged. Hence, they were always. 'un mandatory', if you had the guts to say you were exempt, which I did...

12 minutes ago, JImpster said:

Masks are not mandatory now, people are now free to do as they please ..... no change there then

For those that are happy wearing a face mask it’s part of dressing in the morning.Apparently some ware them in bed but hey that’s another story.😀

6 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

Masks have always had an 'exception clause', which allowed in law to be unchallenged. Hence, they were always. 'un mandatory', if you had the guts to say you were exempt, which I did...

Unfortunately there are some misinformed businesses that ignore the law.

sadly down to underlying health conditions it was a risk i wasn't prepared to take, i like my life carp at times as it may be.

22 hours ago, TomsFocus said:

Likely to be in the millions with long Covid now...and none of us know yet whether it'll be permanent or not. 

I hate these guessing games 😜