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Ford Fiesta 1.0T Ecoboost Titanium X 2013 questions (Newbie)

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15 minutes ago, MarksST said:

They steal them to sell the parts from, From the ST, bumpers, skirts, wheels, lights, seats couple of hours work could get at least £1500 on eBay or Facebook groups. Yes there are “better” cars out there but, the fiesta is probably the quickest and easiest to make money from.

It was the same in Australia,the Holden Commodore was @ the top of the stolen list,along with the Nissan Pulsar.



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  • Hi and welcome. 1, has it got factory fitted sensors or the aftermarket ones that the dealers can fit, only the factory ones will bring the screen display on. 2, 17” wheels won’t give the mo

  • The manufacturer's recommended pressures are not for comfort they are for the best and safest handling.   I think the manufacturer is likely to know a little more about their car that some tyre shop.

  • Factory sensors have a chunkier bezel, aftermarket sensors tend to be flatter  factory in 1st picture   the sensors that detect the fibs are short range, upto 2m. Invest in a faraday po

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Wow! So many replies. Thank you! Please accept my apologies for not replying sooner.  For some reason even though I'm following the topic, I'm not getting any emails to let me know there's been a reply to my thread.  I've tried to answer as many posts as best as possible.

@MarksST Thanks very much for going the extra mile in provide a link.  I've been thinking about this and yes I'm not 100% happy with it, but after reading @Neb_engineer reply, I feel that Benjamin's advice is right that my money would be better spent on buying a reverse camera.  In fact I'm thinking of invest in a dash cam mirror which allows me not only to see when reversing, it also allows me to record both front and rear, hence in the event of an accident, it's a invaluable tool for insurance purposes.

@statts Thanks very much for the pdf document.  Yes, the car is good, although a bit rough.  I think I'm used to my old vehicle, so it's gonna take a bit of time to get there.  As per my reply above to @MarksST, I'm going to get mirror dash cam installed, so I'll avoid the idea of changing my parking sensors.  Your right about kerbing because having a look at the alloys closely, I noticed that the edges had been scraped a lot, so I can only assume they've been kerbed a lot.  I'm happy with the answers about keyless, batteries and faraday pouches and mobile connections.

@alanfp Thanks so much for the tip.  I've also found out that in the event of a dead battery, the vehicle is still startable by placing the key next to where a key-barrel would normally go and you can start the engine.

@TomsFocus Cheers. Maybe it's the tyre pressure.  Since the wheels on Fiesta are not standard, how can I check how much air pressure the tyre needs to be?

@Bobr Thanks Bob, I'll keep them far away from the Fiesta at night.

@Neb_engineer Well that's really small tank.  How much roughly do you expect this car to do locally on a full tank?  I guess, I'll have to live with the bumpy ride.  I've taken on board what you've said and may purchase a mirror camera, similar to the WOLFBOX 12" Mirror Dash Cam although I may ask for help in installing it without damaging the immaculate interior.  I'm happy with the Phone/Bluetooth.

If anyone knows where I can find a video showing how to connect such a camera and how to feed the wire to the back (unless I can get a wireless one), then that would be very appreciated.

Thanks for all your help.

10 minutes ago, fiestatitanium2013 said:

@TomsFocus Cheers. Maybe it's the tyre pressure.  Since the wheels on Fiesta are not standard, how can I check how much air pressure the tyre needs to be?

The 17" tyres have to be XL (extra load) spec because they're very low profile on the Fiesta.  This is basically extra sidewall strengthening so changing the tyre pressures doesn't make much difference to the ride comfort.  The Titanium X did come with 17s as standard though, so I would expect them to be detailed on the tyre pressure sticker on the door pillar.  

Book figures are 33psi front and 26psi rear for standard loads on the 205/40/17 tyres but always worth double checking the actual sticker on your car.

If you like everything about the car except the ride, you could always 'downgrade' to a set of 16" wheels from a Titanium.

41 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

The 17" tyres have to be XL (extra load) spec because they're very low profile on the Fiesta.  This is basically extra sidewall strengthening so changing the tyre pressures doesn't make much difference to the ride comfort.  The Titanium X did come with 17s as standard though, so I would expect them to be detailed on the tyre pressure sticker on the door pillar.  

Book figures are 33psi front and 26psi rear for standard loads on the 205/40/17 tyres but always worth double checking the actual sticker on your car.

If you like everything about the car except the ride, you could always 'downgrade' to a set of 16" wheels from a Titanium.

Hi

The Focus might have come with 17" wheels as standard on Titanium X's but Fiesta Titanium X's didn't as the pictures attached show (16" on left, 17" on right).

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44 minutes ago, statts said:

Hi

The Focus might have come with 17" wheels as standard on Titanium X's but Fiesta Titanium X's didn't as the pictures attached show (16" on left, 17" on right).

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I'm not sure that's correct, larger wheels are part of the X package.  Isn't that 16 the standard Titanium wheel in 2013?

My memory is failing me now, I remember so many of the Mk3 Focus Titanium Xs having 18s (spindly 5 spokes) with an equally awful ride but they may have also been optional in fairness.  

Either way, aren't optional wheels listed on the pillar sticker?

On 1/30/2022 at 1:19 PM, fiestatitanium2013 said:

Hello everyone,

I hope all of you are safe and well.  I want to apologise in advance for any noob questions as being Nissan owners, we know very little about Ford vehicle.  My partner has recently bought our very first Ford Fiesta 1.0T Ecoboost Titanium X (2013) and regrettably she didn't check everything and simply trusted the previous owner.  Here's some of our questions:-

1. When we put the car in reverse, although the parking sensors beep, I'm sure that it's supposed to show a top-view diagram of a car to help guide you visually.  But this car shows nothing.  Is there any reason for this?  FYI, it has a Sony Radio if that helps.

2. The vehicle seems to feel very rough when driving on normal roads and going over bumps is very harsh and we don't know why.  A few things to note are that it has 17" tyres/alloys and last mot gave advisory of "Nearside Front Suspension arm ball joint has slight play (5.3.4 (a) (i))".  Could any of these be the reasons or is it something else?

3.  The car has a keyless system and it is unlockable upon approach.  But we prefer it that we rather enable/disable arming the car via our keys, so it is possible that we can disable the "upon approach" system?

4. Where can we get long-lasting batteries for the keys and are we able to replace them ourselves?

5. The car's Sony radio, seems to only allow one mobile connection, but is there any way of adding more than one?

6. The vehicle gives me approx 400 miles on motorway per full tank - I expected more miles for a 1-litre engine, but would be grateful if any owners or experts can verify that this is right.

 

Thank you very much for all your help.

 

Hi, don't know if it's all been answered but:

1: Not if they're dealer fit/aftermarket sensors

2: 17's are very low profile on MK7's, check pressures, 32psi front, 26psi rear

3: A Ford dealer can deactivate passive entry (Keyless entry is the remote) or you can buy an ELM327 modified lead, get Forscan and turn it off yourself.

4: The fobs use 2032 batteries, only buy Panasonic or Energizer

5: That's about right, the tank isn't so big on Fiesta

6 hours ago, fiestatitanium2013 said:

@Neb_engineer Well that's really small tank.  How much roughly do you expect this car to do locally on a full tank?  I guess, I'll have to live with the bumpy ride.  I've taken on board what you've said and may purchase a mirror camera, similar to the WOLFBOX 12" Mirror Dash Cam although I may ask for help in installing it without damaging the immaculate interior.  I'm happy with the Phone/Bluetooth.

If anyone knows where I can find a video showing how to connect such a camera and how to feed the wire to the back (unless I can get a wireless one), then that would be very appreciated.

Thanks for all your help.

Running wires to the back from the front and vise versa, isn't actually that complicated, just run the wire down the plastic trim running along the sides of the car interior, the hard part as it happens is the running of the wire within the boot lid for the camera, it's very fiddly, I'd recommend a good wire fishing tool and some patience, almost all the interior is held on by clips, just give it a yank.

In terms of your fuel query, I have a 1.25l petrol (a far less efficient engine than yours) I do a mix between Urban and motorway and these days drive for efficiency more than anything else (slow acceleration and not exceeding 60MPH) I get about 300 to 370miles on a single tank normally and I'm using e10, you should get about 400 to 550 miles on a single tank assuming u also drive it in a fuel efficient manner.

The specific tyre pressure chart sticker is located in the front passenger door jam and use what's written on the Sidewall of your tyre for which tyre on the chart is relevant, it also has the spare wheel pressure on the chart. If you do decide to change wheels to the 16s, make sure that the rolling diameter isn't too different otherwise you will have to change it in the Central configuration.

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@TomsFocus @statts  My fiesta's wheels definitely look like the ones that statts is showing on the right.   For now, to save money, I'll stick with what I've got and maybe in future I can invest in smaller 16" wheels.

@DaveT70 Thanks for your answers.  Some have already been resolved, but as mentioned previously, the cost of replacing aftermarket parking sensors with factory ones does not make it worth it.  So instead I'm going with the idea of investing in a Dash Cam Mirror which will allow me to not only see behind the vehicle, but also record everything too.

@Neb_engineer Cheers.  Are there any step-by-step videos showing the user how to feed cabling from front to the back and also through the boot?  I can tell you right now, that I don't expect the fiesta to do anywhere near 400-550 miles.  I full-tanked the vehicle today and drove mostly motorway mileage of 200 miles, leaving under half-tank.  But the trip is showing that the vehicle can only do another 110 miles, so that means approx. 310 miles at most.   I will check the tyre pressures tomorrow hopefully.

9 hours ago, TomsFocus said:

The 17" tyres have to be XL (extra load) spec because they're very low profile on the Fiesta.  This is basically extra sidewall strengthening so changing the tyre pressures doesn't make much difference to the ride comfort.  The Titanium X did come with 17s as standard though, so I would expect them to be detailed on the tyre pressure sticker on the door pillar.  

Book figures are 33psi front and 26psi rear for standard loads on the 205/40/17 tyres but always worth double checking the actual sticker on your car.

If you like everything about the car except the ride, you could always 'downgrade' to a set of 16" wheels from a Titanium.

33 & 26psi are really a bit low.Set mine on 36psi all round.This was by advice given by my tyre shop I have used for years.The pressures the manufacturer says,are really a ‘comfort’ setting.I have my other car @ 38psi all around.Never had an issue.Just make sure you rotate every 10,000kms & balance.Uneven wear  will not be an issue.

32 minutes ago, Hackney said:

33 & 26psi are really a bit low.Set mine on 36psi all round.This was by advice given by my tyre shop I have used for years.The pressures the manufacturer says,are really a ‘comfort’ setting.I have my other car @ 38psi all around.Never had an issue.Just make sure you rotate every 10,000kms & balance.Uneven wear  will not be an issue.

I'd disagree with what that tyre shop said, the pressures aren't actually a comfort thing, they are stated the way they are for load on the tyre, 38psi all round means that (if it's higher than what's recommended) your going to wear the center of the tread faster than the outside of the tread and your giving yourself less grip due to making the tyre more firm and therefore less able to conform to the road surface and reduce contact patch. You think they thought "oh let's just pick a number between 20 and 50 and state this to be the tyre pressure because we feel like it", there is actually engineering that goes into the tyre pressure figures.

43 minutes ago, fiestatitanium2013 said:

@Neb_engineer Cheers.  Are there any step-by-step videos showing the user how to feed cabling from front to the back and also through the boot?  I can tell you right now, that I don't expect the fiesta to do anywhere near 400-550 miles.  I full-tanked the vehicle today and drove mostly motorway mileage of 200 miles, leaving under half-tank.  But the trip is showing that the vehicle can only do another 110 miles, so that means approx. 310 miles at most.   I will check the tyre pressures tomorrow hopefully.

I think there is, but it really isn't complicated, there is no hidden fasteners, to get wires from the front to the boot lid, run it down the a pillow plastic on either side in the foot well, then along the door jam plastic, this is held on with clips, so just pull up the door seal and then you will be able to pull up on the plastic and in clip it, you can do this up to the plastic trim that holds the parcel shelf on, then that has one screw at the back of the boot and your will have to pull up the c pillar plastic, then run it up to the head liner, this is held up at the rear by a plastic plug, pry that off, and then you will be able to access the car side of the accordion linking the boot with the car.

In terms of mileage, how are you driving the car? If your driving it with a heavy right door then you will have a very low MPG especially for that engine.

9 minutes ago, Neb_engineer said:

I'd disagree with what that tyre shop said, the pressures aren't actually a comfort thing, they are stated the way they are for load on the tyre, 38psi all round means that (if it's higher than what's recommended) your going to wear the center of the tread faster than the outside of the tread and your giving yourself less grip due to making the tyre more firm and therefore less able to conform to the road surface and reduce contact patch. You think they thought "oh let's just pick a number between 20 and 50 and state this to be the tyre pressure because we feel like it", there is actually engineering that goes into the tyre pressure figures.

I think there is, but it really isn't complicated, there is no hidden fasteners, to get wires from the front to the boot lid, run it down the a pillow plastic on either side in the foot well, then along the door jam plastic, this is held on with clips, so just pull up the door seal and then you will be able to pull up on the plastic and in clip it, you can do this up to the plastic trim that holds the parcel shelf on, then that has one screw at the back of the boot and your will have to pull up the c pillar plastic, then run it up to the head liner, this is held up at the rear by a plastic plug, pry that off, and then you will be able to access the car side of the accordion linking the boot with the car.

In terms of mileage, how are you driving the car? If your driving it with a heavy right door then you will have a very low MPG especially for that engine.

I have never ever had problem with wear in the centre of a tyre.I have always run my pressures @ 38psi for many years.They always wear extremely well.The Fiesta I was going to put up to 38psi,but,my local tyre shop said no,36psi is optimum.As I alluded to,I have never had  uneven wear issue.Quite frankly I am going on experience of over 50 years of driving.

Well either you haven't noticed it, or its more pronounced on fiestas with 195/55 r15s, coz I ruined a set of tyres doing exactly that

1 hour ago, Neb_engineer said:

Well either you haven't noticed it, or its more pronounced on fiestas with 195/55 r15s, coz I ruined a set of tyres doing exactly that

Could be to do with the set up,& also being FWD.I use to own a Qashqai TI variant(Australian) which had 225/45/19 tyres on it.Had Continental premium contact 6 on it,always used 38psi,never had an issue.Then swapped to Pilot sport 4,never an issue again.Same for my GT Mustang,Pilot sport 4 S.38psi all around.

The fwd and the fact that most the time its only me in the car, if I had the rears at the 46psi it states for fully laden on the rear instead of the 25 that's stated for 1-3 people occupancy (I have to stress here these pressures are not applicable for the OP's wheels as mine are a different size) you can easily see the difference in how the tyre contacts the ground, same with having it at 30psi. My fronts are always at 31.5 -32psi.

Also side wall depth has a lot to do with it, the taller the side wall, the more the tread can bulge in the center as it just pulls the side wall more Central into the tyre instead of allowing it to bulge sideways a bit

11 hours ago, Hackney said:

33 & 26psi are really a bit low.Set mine on 36psi all round.This was by advice given by my tyre shop I have used for years. The pressures the manufacturer says,are really a ‘comfort’ setting.

The OP is complaining about a lack of comfort...they really don't need to be increasing the pressures! :unsure: 

10 hours ago, Hackney said:

I have never ever had problem with wear in the centre of a tyre.I have always run my pressures @ 38psi for many years.They always wear extremely well.The Fiesta I was going to put up to 38psi,but,my local tyre shop said no,36psi is optimum.As I alluded to,I have never had  uneven wear issue.Quite frankly I am going on experience of over 50 years of driving.

The manufacturer's recommended pressures are not for comfort they are for the best and safest handling.   I think the manufacturer is likely to know a little more about their car that some tyre shop.

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Thanks for all your replies guys.  I hope it's okay with you that in future, rather than replying to each individual, I can reply to each issue we're discussing.

Tyres

I've attached photos of my tyre size and the door jam sticker.  Looks like the size is 205/40 R17.  We on average have 2-3 people in car most times.

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48 minutes ago, fiestatitanium2013 said:

Thanks for all your replies guys.  I hope it's okay with you that in future, rather than replying to each individual, I can reply to each issue we're discussing.

Tyres

I've attached photos of my tyre size and the door jam sticker.  Looks like the size is 205/40 R17.  We on average have 2-3 people in car most times.

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They do like to make those stickers confusing for multiple markets!  So yes 33 front, 26 rear, is correct for the 17s. :smile: 

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1 hour ago, TomsFocus said:

They do like to make those stickers confusing for multiple markets!  So yes 33 front, 26 rear, is correct for the 17s. :smile: 

Thanks for clarifying this Tom.

10 hours ago, Bobr said:

The manufacturer's recommended pressures are not for comfort they are for the best and safest handling.   I think the manufacturer is likely to know a little more about their car that some tyre shop.

Sorry I do not agree.I have always run my pressures above the recommended tyre pressures,with absolute no issues.Care to explain what I am doing wrong?Considering I have never had an issue in the ‘safety’ OR handling dept.Tyre shops I would have more faith in than a vehicle manufacturer.They tend to be very conservative.I have been in the auto industry for nearly 50 years,think I know a little bit.BTW,’comfort’ does come into it(fact).

24 minutes ago, Hackney said:

Sorry I do not agree.I have always run my pressures above the recommended tyre pressures,with absolute no issues.Care to explain what I am doing wrong?Considering I have never had an issue in the ‘safety’ OR handling dept.Tyre shops I would have more faith in than a vehicle manufacturer.They tend to be very conservative.I have been in the auto industry for nearly 50 years,think I know a little bit.BTW,’comfort’ does come into it(fact).

I wonder why the manufacturers spend millions on this subject then when all they have to do is ask you.

4 minutes ago, Bobr said:

I wonder why the manufacturers spend millions on this subject then when all they have to do is ask you.

As I alluded to,would you care to explain to me where I am (obviously) according to you,where I am getting it terribly wrong?I would really love to know.Perhaps you should actually try it,rather than dismiss it.The funny thing is,I have had nearly over fifty cars in my life time,never ever had an issue,care to explain what I am doing wrong?

Manufacturers aren't really bothered by comfort now...I really wish they were!

All about emissions nowadays...less sidewall flex means less friction, less fuel used to cover the same distance and fewer CO2 emissions.  So rock solid tyres are the norm...bad for me, but apparently preferable for Hackney! :biggrin:

Not sure if any of you have owned a Suzuki Swift...only car I've seen that offers 2 pressures on the door sticker, one for comfort and one for economy.  

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13 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

Manufacturers aren't really bothered by comfort now...I really wish they were!

All about emissions nowadays...less sidewall flex means less friction, less fuel used to cover the same distance and fewer CO2 emissions.  So rock solid tyres are the norm...bad for me, but apparently preferable for Hackney! :biggrin:

Not sure if any of you have owned a Suzuki Swift...only car I've seen that offers 2 pressures on the door sticker, one for comfort and one for economy.  

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As I keep repeating,I have never had issues with pressures I use,comfort,handling OR otherwise.Tyres still wear exceptionally well,as one poster alluded to apparently ‘safety’ comes into it.38 PSI is hardly ‘rock solid’.I will leave it @ that.

33 minutes ago, Hackney said:

As I keep repeating,I have never had issues with pressures I use,comfort,handling OR otherwise.Tyres still wear exceptionally well,as one poster alluded to apparently ‘safety’ comes into it.38 PSI is hardly ‘rock solid’.I will leave it @ that.

Well I have to disagree with you there, depending on the tyre volume, 38psi can be very hard

 

45 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

less sidewall flex means less friction, less fuel used to cover the same distance and fewer CO2 emissions.  So rock solid tyres are the norm...bad for me, but apparently preferable for Hackney! :biggrin:

Actually that's not at all why they do it, actually a larger sidewall is more efficient to a point as it allows the tyre to absorb inconsistencies in the road surface a lot better than a rock hard low profile tyre, the reason they do the low profile tyres is more to do with car roll from tyre flex (In the sportier trims) and to make the car look more premium

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