Supertrev Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Hi Everyone, I am a 68 year old 2009 Jaguar XJ TDi owner and I need a car with lower running costs. I don't usually take long journeys, just usually out for an afternoon drive around the countryside. I'm seriously considering buying a Focus and would appreciate any advice where good mpg and reliability is important. A 2013-2015 1.0ltr eco boost petrol Autotrader website mpg figures 44 urban, 67 extra urban and 56 combined. Or A 2013-2014 1.6ltr tdci diesel. Autotrader website mpg figures 55 urban, 76 extra urban and 67 combined but of course diesel local Sainsbury is 60p per gallon more. What should I look out for and / or be aware of, thanks. Trevor. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Hi Trevor, Don't know if you've had time for a good look around yet but similar questions have been asked many times. One important point to note is a 1.0 Ecoboost is due a cambelt change at 10 years which is a very expensive procedure on these engines (we have seen main dealer quotes of £1700). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Hello Trevor, you will get lots of conflicting opinions on the subject. The matter of the 1.0 Ecoboost engine and it's reliability (or lack of) is a frequently debated topic on this and many other forums. If you're considering a 2013 model then you are most likely going to have to pay to get the wet timing belt replaced, which as Roger has said is going to cost around £1700. Since you are already a diesel driver my thoughts would be to go with the 1.6 diesel engine. Yes the fuel is slightly more expensive but in terms of overall running costs it will be cheaper. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 An older thread here, but quite a bit of info on the 1.6 diesel which might be helpful: https://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/82842-16-diesel-worried-over-choice-of-engine/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertrev Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 Thank you Eric and Unofix for your fast response, very helpful and I will check out the 1.6 diesel live link. Supertrev. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertrev Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 Hi again everyone, I read through the live link that Eric posted and it seems the 1.6tdi 8v Focus is the way to go and just wondering that when I search for one, how do I tell the difference between the troublesome 16v mk2 and the 8v mk3 please. Thanks. Trevor. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan G H Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 One thing to be aware of is that a diesel of the age you are looking at will be fitted with a Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) in the exhaust. Vehicles with a DPF are not really suited to gentle short runs, as the filter blocks up causing expensive repairs. Unless the car will get driven quite hard occasionally for a fair distance, you might be better off going for a petrol car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Supertrev said: how do I tell the difference between the troublesome 16v mk2 and the 8v mk3 please. I think the earlier thread made clear that the Mk 3 had the better engine? Or are you asking how to differentiate between a Mk 2 and Mk 3? Mk 3 in white, Mk 2 in silver below. As the Mk 3 was launched in 2011 you shouldn't come across a Mk 2 anyway in the age range you mentioned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertrev Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 Thanks Alan and Eric. Alan, My Jaguar has a DPF and I understand about short, gentle journeys causing problems. My Jaguar is taken for a run often along the A5 at 55mph with cruise control on and luckily no problems in 2.5 years. . Eric, I can see that the MK3 has a different front bottom bumper thingy with a triangular air intake so easily recognised. Thanks both once again. Trevor. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertrev Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share Posted March 18, 2023 Hi again Guys, I've found a nice 2013 1.6tdi, mk3 Focus with manual transmission for £4,495. . I'm wondering how realistic are the quoted mpg figures for this year and model, thanks. Trevor. Urban 55.40 mpg Extra Urban 76.40 mpg Combined 67.30 mpg . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Will totally depend on driving style and times, traffic conditions etc. I averaged 55-60mpg combined in mine. Never saw more than 60mpg over a tankful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertrev Posted March 19, 2023 Author Share Posted March 19, 2023 Thanks TomsFocus, Very helpful. Supertrev. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertrev Posted May 5 Author Share Posted May 5 Hi again Guys, I finally got around to getting my finances sorted and bought a 2011 Focus 1.6tdi Titanium MK 3 during February this year and I am so pleased with it. After my 09 Jaguar 2.7 tdi XJ the mpg is amazing averaging 64 mpg around local and going out for my afternoon drive around the countryside sometimes late 60's early 70's mpg on the display. The road tax is £395 cheaper too. I need to have the air con regassed and was thinking of doing it myself to save money and buy a can (you know what I mean, hopefully) from Halfords. I presume the air con filler valve is the one just to the left front of the engine. Any advice will be very much appreciated, thanks in advance, Supertrev. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 3 hours ago, Supertrev said: thinking of doing it myself to save money and buy a can (you know what I mean, hopefully) from Halfords. I'd not recommend that, but it's your car. Not that I'm a fan of KwikFit (far from it) but they have a money back offer if they regas the system and it doesn't make the A/C cooler by a certain amount. Check their website for details. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Mk3's were notorious for AC leaks even within the warranty period. I'd be surprised if yours does just need a regas at 12 years old. Professional regas is definitely the better option here, they pull a vacuum on the system first, so can detect any major leaks and won't charge you to refill it if there are. And if it has a slow leak, loses the gas within a week or two, then you can often get your money back as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlequin_uk Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Mine had a leak test and the condenser was cracked, had it replaced (not overly cheap in 2024) but it blows nice and cold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertrev Posted Saturday at 09:54 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 09:54 AM Hi Guys, Yesterday my lovely car was written off by an HGV scraping down the offside whilst I sat in traffic damaging the steering system, door, front wing, plastic trims and mirror. I'm absolutely gutted. Such a great car with fantastic mpg. Supertrev. . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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