crickleymal Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Hi All We've just bought a 2002 1.8tddi hatch back but it's only come with the one key, the key with 3 buttons on it. That key is pretty worn and Timpsons say it's too worn for them to cut another key from. How easy is it to fit another lock set and to recode a key yourself? According to the owner's handbook that came with the car we need two keys to be able to code other keys and as we don't have the special key I'm a bit stumped. Thanks Malc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW1982 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 A lot of Ford mechanics or specialists are able to determine the key code by just looking at the key. If the key is too far worn to determine the correct key code the code can also be determined by opening a lock. The lock plates inside the lock have numbers and the key code can be determined by these numbers. However both reading the key and the lock plates require skills, knowledge and experience. On the Focus MK1 you need 2 original working (programmed) keys to be able to program an additional key yourself by the procedure listed in the instruction manual. If you have just 1 key it is not possible to program an additional key yourself. In this case a new key can only be programmed to the PATS system of the car with a suitable diagnostic system which has the ability to program the Ford PATS system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artscot79 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Should be noted if the key gets too worn it can refuse to open the doors or even work in the ignition some Mobil locksmiths can still cut you s new key and programme it for you but you wont see much change from 拢100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Should be noted if the key gets too worn it can refuse to open the doors or even work in the ignition some Mobil locksmiths can still cut you s new key and programme it for you but you wont see much change from 拢100 and the other way round , if you manage to get a new key cut, it may not work in a worn ign barrel or door lock, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickleymal Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 Bit the bullet and went to the Ford dealers. New key plus programming 拢120. Given SWMBO's track record it's a good investment 馃榿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEADS Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Sure stoney knows how to read to code on these keys sure I,ve seen him post it up before can do it off a decent photo .might be worth giving him a pm see if he can help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamweb Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Trying to work out the code for this key.433412?Or I'm I聽completely useless Sent from my iPad using Ford OC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Looks like 433412 to me too. There always has to be a 1 in there somewhere as that is the bit that physically turns the lock barrel once the other cuts line up with their corresponding rings in the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaloti Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Allways has to be a Number 4 cut.. Older fords used the tip to turn the barrel (once disc's are lined up). Newer fords use the Number 4 disc to turn the barrel. When the keys start to were to excess, you will see nasty marks( little dents made by the disc) on the number 4 cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Could have do with tilting key more to see profile but its either433412 or 432412 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Nah, definitely 100% 433412. Any key cutter worth their salt will be able to confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Ok, your the expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Ok, your the expert. No expert :d Just had a bit of practice. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Yeh, and me, lots , lol. Not many ive got wrong, I always do a lower cut if a worn key and try in lock incase a 2 looks 3 or 1 looks like a 2, you can cut down but buggered key if the other way round. Allways look directly side on to key, looking at an angle not ideal on a worn key . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaloti Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Dead easy to de-code. You know theres always at least 1 number 4. You can plainly see there are 3 other heights on there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Dead easy to de-code. You know theres always at least 1 number 4. You can plainly see there are 3 other heights on there. So do you concur with my reading ? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaloti Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Absolutely mate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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