Had a couple of moments in my new focus, one being tonight driving round a tight roundabout.

Only doing about 25mph and the back end properly stepped out. this also happened the other day in the same wet damp conditions.

Not driving erratic or aggressive as i had family members in the car.

I have noticed that i have new tyres fitted to the rear... they are autogrips and im guessing there the problem, probably cheap nasty budgets. Front end has uniroyals fitted and they seem grippy but my lack of control and grip seems to be from these rear tyres.

So anyone got and recomendations for new decent tyres that are grippy but fuel efficient.

Also because ive only owned the car for a week and tbh if these cheap nasty budgets arent safe because the car is quite powerfull, are they obliged to help or cover some of the cost of some new tyres. Im concerned that im going to have an accident.

Ive just checked the autogrip performance figures and the get an E for wet weather grip. Think these tyres are not right for my car

I'd do a few web searches for tyre models that offer best all-weather grip balanced with fuel efficiency and a good lifespan.

Sites like www.blackcircles.com give good tyre comparisons for suitable sizes and can also save you a lot of time/expense.

Don't bother with places like Kwik-Fit as they will only push you towards their range which can be limited and with no guarantees that they will be what you are really after.

I know mainstream brands like Michelin, Pirelli and Goodyear are more pricey but you get what you pay for in the end.

buy the best tyres you can afford Goodyear and conti are about the best you can get for what you are looking for in a tyre

Thanks for the replies I was just shocked how bad these auto grip tyres were, shockingly bad

No matter which brand of tyres you go for try tyreleader.co.uk, I found them to be the cheapest by far.

You can have the best car will all the bells and whistles but it won't count for anything if the four small pads of rubber touching the road are grippy as block of lard.

They really should be banned, id hate to think of how many folk die each year in RTAs because of crap rubber

I went to get a puncture repaired at my local tyre garage he checked my tyres and said when it comes to getting new ones which ones would I get I replied "I'll be getting GoodYear on all four" he said you're the first person in a very long time to come along and ask for the top of the range premium tyres people just want crap anything to save a few £££.

I'm not on good money like a lot of people but I will not get the cheapest tyres going. Can't put a price on safety :)

I have a set of these Hankook Ventus V12 Evo 2 K120 fitted to my car and I'm well impressed by them. Lots of grip dry or wet and they seem to be wearing very well fuel efficiency is in the 50s and still fairly quiet in the cabin.

I had michellins on the car before they were the ones it left the factory with and to be honest the hankooks are just as good in every respect and they were 30 quid cheaper each tyre.

Just a suggestion. But yes don't go budget. I wouldn't even consider it. Why endanger yourself or anyone else.

My mates just fitted his golf out with a full set of the hankook mentioned above.

Sure he ordered them from camskill.co.uk and they were very cheap!

Goodyear efficient grip performance are my choice , gets "b" for rolliing resistance, "a" for wet grip. Got some on my focus.

Goodyear efficient grip performance are my choice , gets "b" for rolliing resistance, "a" for wet grip. Got some on my focus.

Had efficient grip on my mk2 Focus and they were excellent.

My ST came with Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 as standard.

Listed as summer use only but have excellent wet grip.

I like that they have a protective lip to prevent kerbing of the alloys.

i had them and dont like it. Uniroyal rainsport 3 are better

and threads like this are the worst to have on a car forum, youll never get a definitive answer :D

Had efficient grip on my mk2 Focus and they were excellent.

My ST came with Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 as standard.

Listed as summer use only but have excellent wet grip.

I like that they have a protective lip to prevent kerbing of the alloys.

Yeah I was surprised how big the anti-curb ridge is on these tyres, really nice to have though. My last 2 Foci had Continentals which still had a ridge but not like these. My mum's Michelins don't seem to have any ridge and afaik they were fitted at the factory.

Only bad tyres I have experienced were on my old Fiesta, they were the original Hankook Ventus S1 Evos and were totally useless in the wet. Constantly lit up the front wheels trying to pull out of junctions - they had a complete slick band down the middle, probably to reduce rolling resistance, but it just made wet grip rubbish. Fortunately they seem to have improved the design on their newer tyres.

Definitive answers will be all but impossible due to the fact that every car, even of the same type, can handle differently in similar conditions, which can vary greatly, road surfaces, camber, tyre pressures, tyre wear, tyre type, suspension settings, driver input, road speed etc, etc will all affect how any car achieves, or doesn't achieve, sufficient traction in adverse conditions

Mum had Avon on her A3 and they were much better than the Michelins they replaced.

The 207 has some sort of cheap chinese tyres, 3 of which were brand new when we bought the car (used) and they seem to be ok. Might help that it isnt very powerful! We had a puncture a few months ago, and the original 7 year old Michelin on the back had to be replaced. The tyre fitter just recommended a cheaper tyre as all it does is sit on the back and rotate.

Seems rather compliacted on which is best for your car, and it doesn't help that there are so many to choose from!

Mum had Avon on her A3 and they were much better than the Michelins they replaced.

The 207 has some sort of cheap chinese tyres, 3 of which were brand new when we bought the car (used) and they seem to be ok. Might help that it isnt very powerful! We had a puncture a few months ago, and the original 7 year old Michelin on the back had to be replaced. The tyre fitter just recommended a cheaper tyre as all it does is sit on the back and rotate.

Seems rather compliacted on which is best for your car, and it doesn't help that there are so many to choose from!

Such bad advice.

As has been demonstrated by the OP, the rear tyres do a lot more than sit and rotate

'' all it does is sit on the back & rotate ''

Never have I heard such dangerous nonsense

Lol...the rears 'just' sit there and stop your back end sliding away from you on every corner...so kinda important. ;)

My car came on Hankook S1 Evo's, didn't really like them but they were far better than budgets. I've also used Uniroyal Rainsport 2 and 3 in the past and while their wet grip is good, the sidewalls are just too soft for hard cornering in the dry (if that's your thing).

I've now got Dunlop Sport BlueResponse all round and can't really fault them! Great in the wet and have stiff enough sidewalls for fun in the dry as well. If I were to make any criticism it'd be that they aren't 'blue', fuel efficiency hasn't been any different across the 3 different tyre types I've had on the car so don't look too much at the efficiency ratings personally.

Agreed.

Even if the tyres are on non-driven wheels the grip is essential to stop the back end stepping out on bends.

I never compromise on tyres, a life is worth a lot more than a few quid extra for decent tyres.

Tyres are the vehicle's only direct contact with the road surface, at any one time only a '' footprint '' of approximately the size of one's palm of a hand, per tyre, is in contact with the road surface, which isn't much when your life can depend on it.

I have Avon Zv5's on mine and I find them good all round tyre.Always change them at 3 mm tread depth or before.

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Tyres are the vehicle's only direct contact with the road surface, at any one time only a '' footprint '' of approximately the size of one's palm of a hand, per tyre, is in contact with the road surface, which isn't much when your life can depend on it.

Especially given you have the momentum of somewhere between 1 and 2 tonnes for a typical car trying to hang on to that small footprint.

I have Avon Zv5's on mine and I find them good around tyre.Always change them at 3 mm tread depth or before.

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I used to use ZZ3's, the ZV5's replaced them.