GaryPL Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 It's absolutely extraordinary that parts of Ford's poster boy engine is rusting like this in such new vehicles. The 1.0 EcoBoost really isn't going to last the test of time. Been saying it a long time now. The cooling system is rubbish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jace1969 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 On 11/8/2017 at 3:13 PM, GaryPL said: It's absolutely extraordinary that parts of Ford's poster boy engine is rusting like this in such new vehicles. The 1.0 EcoBoost really isn't going to last the test of time. Been saying it a long time now. The cooling system is rubbish. I agree and i was waiting for more problems pop up but rust i did not expect to hear that,as i said every car has problems but i think i will stick with my 1.6 as it keeps going. There are a few things i don't like on the ecoboost and this now being another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 i wonder how its going to manage in a transit phev? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPL Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, iantt said: i wonder how its going to manage in a transit phev? Hauling loads? Complicated hybrid system? Ford's legendary customer service, quality goods and world class design? What could possibly go wrong. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Ironically this thread started the day I came back from ordering a 1.0 Ecoboost* - I wonder if I'd have gone ahead if I'd seen the thread first? The optimist in me says it's only a small sample among many thousands sold, and as iantt has often said, and most of us know from experience, other makes have problems too. Then the pessimist kicks in - I doubt if most drivers check under the bonnet as often as members of this forum, let alone examine their turbo cooling pipes and what if this just the tip of an enormous iceberg?? (*I console myself that I have ordered an ST Line X so it will probably never come anyway!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiFiesta Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 30 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said: Ironically this thread started the day I came back from ordering a 1.0 Ecoboost* - I wonder if I'd have gone ahead if I'd seen the thread first? The optimist in me says it's only a small sample among many thousands sold, and as iantt has often said, and most of us know from experience, other makes have problems too. Then the pessimist kicks in - I doubt if most drivers check under the bonnet as often as members of this forum, let alone examine their turbo cooling pipes and what if this just the tip of an enormous iceberg?? (*I console myself that I have ordered an ST Line X so it will probably never come anyway!) New 1.0 engines have different material turbo coolant pipes so Ford is obviously well aware of the problem. It sounds like it's a problem of dissimilar metals reacting, so might be related to a particular bad batch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 On 15/09/2017 at 6:04 PM, Eric Bloodaxe said: A friend of mine has a 13 plate Focus with 125 ps and a 100ps Fiesta on a 65 plate. I mentioned this issue to him and he has just got back to me after checking both cars. The Focus was as new but the newer Fiesta was showing light corrosion on the pipes. Anyway, he is going to raise it with his dealer for peace of mind - many thanks to 2013Ecoboost for flagging up the issue and providing helpful pics! Just had an update on this after my friend had the Fiesta in the dealership. When he collected it the service advisor said there was no rust and the technician had taken a photo for their records to prove it. On asking to see the photo, my mate pointed out that the rust was clearly visible with which the advisor concurred. So they asked him to keep an eye on it and bring it back if it gets any worse. Not that satisfactory but it's still got 12 months warranty so he should be covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Page on Facebook where various ecoboost problems are documented with Ford replacing rusty turbos and blown engines outwith the warranty period. (Mostly 12/13 plate) Search Facebook for ‘ford focus ecoboost 1.0l turbo zetec faulty coolant pipe engine head gasket’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPL Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 20 minutes ago, Russ said: Page on Facebook where various ecoboost problems are documented with Ford replacing rusty turbos and blown engines outwith the warranty period. (Mostly 12/13 plate) Search Facebook for ‘ford focus ecoboost 1.0l turbo zetec faulty coolant pipe engine head gasket’ Useful source of information but the person who operates that group is extremely precious and has a pop at people who are trying to help. So beware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJNewton Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Yeah it's a shame that. I even got banned because I was being a bit too balanced about the issue. If you don't turn up with a pitchfork you soon get turned away... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 at least ford have now put there hand up and are fixing the ones affected foc, even 5yr old cars. ford are aledgely producing more than a million 1.0 ecoboost engines a year. puts it into perspective a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJNewton Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 That's the way I see it. I sympathise with those affected, and I'd hate to be one of the unlucky ones, but it really is important to maintain some perspective as to how big of a problem it actually is and what Ford can realistically actually do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2013Ecoboost Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 On 10/26/2017 at 9:14 PM, Doylie said: Sorry just to clarify, Is the rust on the turbo housing normal ? or was the trust ford mechanic saying that that was a design fault and they replaced the whole turbo not just the rusty pipes ? Replaced the whole Turbo, but only because the pipes are attached to the turbo housing - i.e you can;t just replace the pipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_60 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 you were banned ??? was this in writing or verbally. Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highmac Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 We had our 63-plate Ecoboost Fiesta serviced and this week. Annual service which has been done by the same Ford main dealer since we bought it, although we did not buy it from them. This one is a family-owned business with just two branches, so "small enough to care" and we've had no problems. The car has just over 22,000 miles on the clock. After coming across this thread thought I'd better check ours. The pipes themselves look clean with no signs of rust or leaks. However the housing they go into seems to be a rusty colour, but evenly spread like the one in the OP's picture, almost like it was made that way. I'll drop an email to them about it over the weekend with a link to this thread and see what they come back with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJNewton Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 As discussed above, rusting of the turbo housing is entirely normal and serves as a passivation layer to prevent further corrosion. It is nothing to worry about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highmac Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 37 minutes ago, MJNewton said: As discussed above, rusting of the turbo housing is entirely normal and serves as a passivation layer to prevent further corrosion. It is nothing to worry about. Thank you Mathew - I'd only just found the topic so scanned through it rather (too) quickly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJNewton Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 No worries - it is quite a lengthy thread!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonro2009 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I’m going to check the wife’s 65 plate ecoboost tomorrow after reading this, if I can find the right place to look! I’m not very clever when it comes to under the bonnet, I have no problem with removing trim and parts though. Do you think the Mk5 Mondeo 1.5 ecoboost could suffer a similar fate? I’m not looking forward to checking given the cold, damp and (grit) salty road conditions in the HighlandsSent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 my partners 16 plate ecoboost turbo pipes are shiny and rust free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonro2009 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 my partners 16 plate ecoboost turbo pipes are shiny and rust free Is that a Mondeo or fez?Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Fez 1.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Your 1.5 ecoboost has different pipework that isn't part of the turbo . And good luck looking for the coolant pipes on the turbo. Turbo is buried round the back of engine low down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonro2009 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Your 1.5 ecoboost has different pipework that isn't part of the turbo . And good luck looking for the coolant pipes on the turbo. Turbo is buried round the back of engine low down I’ll just check the wife’s then and carry on in ignorant bliss when it comes to mine [emoji16]Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loydpg Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just read this thread, and I've checked my 2014 Fiesta Ecoboost 100ps! PHEW!!! The pipes on my car are clean, no rust, but I will look in Halfords next time for some high temperature paint. Many thanks for the heads-up, and good luck to those dealing with Fords customer department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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