Focus Tdci Upgrades

[Lenny]

love reading this great upgrade thread keep up the good work :)

Thanks Paul mate,

I much prefer responding to questions on an open thread rather than a personal message because it can be read my others and linked to or later referred to at any time, it is for these reasons I'm making efforts to include as much image and detail as i can.

I'm also reminiscing on the past five years of my life since I'm now done :)

not fully sure what to do now then. I dont want something that is too loud but would like something with a nice muffling sound with maybe a bit of turbo whistle. Definitely want to get it before i do any other performance mods to the car for sure.

can't wait to fit it, will be traveling to newcastle so will be able to test it out on a long journey.

Up to yourself mate,

Id go for pipe,

Then after dpf removal if you feel its too lou, you can then have the pipe chopped and weld in a diesel muffler just the same as fitting it now.

The K&N57s will give you induction whistle,

Can hear the turbo spool when passenger window is open :)

[samgreeny]

Thanks Paul mate,

I much prefer responding to questions on an open thread rather than a personal message because it can be read my others and linked to or later referred to at any time, it is for these reasons I'm making efforts to include as much image and detail as i can.

I'm also reminiscing on the past five years of my life since I'm now done :)

Up to yourself mate,

Id go for pipe,

Then after dpf removal if you feel its too lou, you can then have the pipe chopped and weld in a diesel muffler just the same as fitting it now.

The K&N57s will give you induction whistle,

Can hear the turbo spool when passenger window is open :)

Yeah I guess it won't be too hard to change it after I've had the dpf removed. Will be looking to have the dpf done at the same time as the remap, hopefully may save a bit of money doing it that way. Can't get it remapped until December time because of the !Removed! insurance company.

Will hopefully be ordering the K&N57s induction kit soon.

[Lenny]

Yeah I guess it won't be too hard to change it after I've had the dpf removed. Will be looking to have the dpf done at the same time as the remap, hopefully may save a bit of money doing it that way. Can't get it remapped until December time because of the !Removed! insurance company.

Will hopefully be ordering the K&N57s induction kit soon.

Will be worth the wait though,

The induction filter upgrade will compliment the egr blanking as the engine sucks in 20% more induction air after blanking because it no longer takes in up to 20% of the exhaust waste gasses,

Result free flowing filter helps smoother acceleration its all posotive and done in steps like this you get to feel and appreciate the difference each part makes compared to doing it all at once.

[samgreeny]

Will be worth the wait though,

The induction filter upgrade will compliment the egr blanking as the engine sucks in 20% more induction air after blanking because it no longer takes in up to 20% of the exhaust waste gasses,

Result free flowing filter helps smoother acceleration its all posotive and done in steps like this you get to fell and appreciate the differences.

Definitely want to enjoy the improvement on it when spending money on it all.

About getting it remapped. I have seen this place, they say they can get the torque up to 310 which is a +70 gain from what it already is. Everywhere else seems to only be offering around +50 gain on the toque. They offer the same BHP with it as most places. Do you recon a +70 gain on the torque is safe without having to upgrade other engine components? But they state this on their website "The files we provide you with are also certified by German TÃœV, Which is the most difficult certification to get for it".

http://www.tdperformance.co.uk/tuning/1-6-tdci-109hp-2

Also how true is it that if i had an accident and the insurance company didn't actually know about the remap that they would be able to detect that it is on there? Because again on their website they state;

"By law you must notify your insurance of any modification made to your

vehicle again the modification however is undetectable. Basically the

change in the engine map is extremely hard to diagnose, even with the

right equipment to compare it with. Secondly to say something has been

modified you have to compare it to the original and with only one map on

the car what can you compare it against to prove it has been modified."

which seems to basically say that if i had it done the insurance company would never be able to tell even if they tried to check it? Not saying i will get it done without telling the insurance because obviously dont want to state that on a forum so everyone can see because everything should be done legally but just thought i'd ask

[Lenny]

Definitely want to enjoy the improvement on it when spending money on it all.

About getting it remapped. I have seen this place, they say they can get the torque up to 310 which is a +70 gain from what it already is. Everywhere else seems to only be offering around +50 gain on the toque. They offer the same BHP with it as most places. Do you recon a +70 gain on the torque is safe without having to upgrade other engine components? But they state this on their website "The files we provide you with are also certified by German TÃœV, Which is the most difficult certification to get for it".

http://www.tdperformance.co.uk/tuning/1-6-tdci-109hp-2

Also how true is it that if i had an accident and the insurance company didn't actually know about the remap that they would be able to detect that it is on there? Because again on their website they state;

"By law you must notify your insurance of any modification made to your

vehicle again the modification however is undetectable. Basically the

change in the engine map is extremely hard to diagnose, even with the

right equipment to compare it with. Secondly to say something has been

modified you have to compare it to the original and with only one map on

the car what can you compare it against to prove it has been modified."

which seems to basically say that if i had it done the insurance company would never be able to tell even if they tried to check it? Not saying i will get it done without telling the insurance because obviously dont want to state that on a forum so everyone can see because everything should be done legally but just thought i'd ask

I had my focus in with ford for a service after dpf removal and remap,

They plugged it in to there diagnostic system and all seemed factory to them it fully communicated with there equipment as normal.

The remap takes your existing programme mirrors its code and alters its parameters then puts it back on the ECU,

So its almost impossible to detect,

I say almost because if you test drove yours and a remapped model you would tell the difference having driven ,

Unless you got speed limiter removed and crashed at a speed exceeding the limit your more less 100% as said though id declare all mods and let them decide which of them are important.

Id go for the remap with lower torque in a bid to prolong the life of your clutch to be honest.

[samgreeny]

I had my focus in with ford for a service after dpf removal and remap,

They plugged it in to there diagnostic system and all seemed factory to them it fully communicated with there equipment as normal.

The remap takes your existing programme mirrors its code and alters its parameters then puts it back on the ECU,

So its almost impossible to detect,

I say almost because if you test drove yours and a remapped model you would tell the difference having driven ,

Unless you got speed limiter removed and crashed at a speed exceeding the limit your more less 100% as said though id declare all mods and let them decide which of them are important.

Id go for the remap with lower torque in a bid to prolong the life of your clutch to be honest.

ok, clears it all up then. someone did say it was almost impossible to detect but i wasn't 100% sure.

I take it you wouldn't recommend having the speed limiter removed then?

I never drive at stupid speeds anyway. Tested the max speed at one point and think i hit around 115mph and decided to slow down as i didn't want to get caught speeding haha.

Do you think there would be that much noticeable difference between 50 and 70 torque? i would make sure i didn't drive it stupidly. A mate of mine is able to fit clutches if it came down to it. Not that i would want to waste money on a clutch if i dont have to but just weighting up the options.

[Lenny]

ok, clears it all up then. someone did say it was almost impossible to detect but i wasn't 100% sure.

I take it you wouldn't recommend having the speed limiter removed then?

I never drive at stupid speeds anyway. Tested the max speed at one point and think i hit around 115mph and decided to slow down as i didn't want to get caught speeding haha.

Do you think there would be that much noticeable difference between 50 and 70 torque? i would make sure i didn't drive it stupidly. A mate of mine is able to fit clutches if it came down to it. Not that i would want to waste money on a clutch if i dont have to but just weighting up the options.

I personally dont see much point in removing speed limiter on any diesel engine if it was a japanese imported petrol id be all in favour of it as there all limited to 100mph with police vehicles capable of exceeding that limit to be able to catch them lol

20Nm isn't a lot to be honest its around 15Nm of torque required to open a newly purchased jam jar so its not a whole lot but on top of a standard remap its a considerable increase for sure.

[samgreeny]

I personally dont see much point in removing speed limiter on any diesel engine if it was a japanese imported petrol id be all in favour of it as there all limited to 100mph with police vehicles capable of exceeding that limit to be able to catch them lol

20Nm isn't a lot to be honest its around 15Nm of torque required to open a newly purchased jam jar so its not a whole lot but on top of a standard remap its a considerable increase for sure.

I won't bother then, as it costs around an additional £50 for it to be done. Considering my car technically says top speed of 110mph but I've hit 115mph in it. Is there actually a speed limiter haha.

So isn't loads as such then. I guess it would put a lot more strain on the clutch having that extra 20 torque though?

[samgreeny]

Does a rs intercooler fit my model of car?

Found this on ebay;

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/221780441152?nav=SEARCH

Or should I just look at an aftermarket one such as airtec or something like that?

[Lenny]

I won't bother then, as it costs around an additional £50 for it to be done. Considering my car technically says top speed of 110mph but I've hit 115mph in it. Is there actually a speed limiter haha.

So isn't loads as such then. I guess it would put a lot more strain on the clutch having that extra 20 torque though?

All speedo clocks are out by around 3-5MPH

If you access the secret menu on your focus, you can scroll to a digital speedo which will show you true speed,

The top speed limiter is only in 5th gear aswell,

After remap and dpf removal you will climb much faster in 4th compared to 5th

Just leave it in 4th until your up there then cruise in to 5th.

And i suppose its worth doing the extra 20Nm if your not concerned about clutch.

Does a rs intercooler fit my model of car?

Found this on ebay;http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/221780441152?nav=SEARCH

Or should I just look at an aftermarket one such as airtec or something like that?

I know the ST intercooler is said 5o be a straight swap and is bigger than the diesel type intercooler,

There's a whole science behind intercooler size and matching it to turbo size for best performance.

Too big and it wont work as good.

Those flanges on the RS intercooler look to be bigger than the diesel intercooler piping to be honest.

There is a german tuning company called "Code Red" they manufacture specific focus diesel intercooler upgrades used to be available through www.european-parts.net

That said though an ST stock intercooler is a good upgrade or a slightly bigger airtec intercooler but not too big.

Also painting it black helps it lose heat.

See video:

https://youtu.be/f1QL9veQaNg

[samgreeny]

All speedo clocks are out by around 3-5MPH

If you access the secret menu on your focus, you can scroll to a digital speedo which will show you true speed,

The top speed limiter is only in 5th gear aswell,

After remap and dpf removal you will climb much faster in 4th compared to 5th

Just leave it in 4th until your up there then cruise in to 5th.

And i suppose its worth doing the extra 20Nm if your not concerned about clutch.

I know the ST intercooler is said 5o be a straight swap and is bigger than the diesel type intercooler,

There's a whole science behind intercooler size and matching it to turbo size for best performance.

Too big and it wont work as good.

Those flanges on the RS intercooler look to be bigger than the diesel intercooler piping to be honest.

There is a german tuning company called "Code Red" they manufacture specific focus diesel intercooler upgrades used to be available through www.european-parts.net

That said though an ST stock intercooler is a good upgrade or a slightly bigger airtec intercooler but not too big.

Also painting it black helps it lose heat.

See video:

https://youtu.be/f1QL9veQaNg

Just thought I'd check because of how cheap it was going for. Wasn't sure if it would be worth it or not.

Ok I will have a look at the Code Red and airtec then. Cheers

Interesting. Would never have thought of something like that. So it would be worth going for a black intercooler then? Did wonder if there was a reason for the air tec ones being black or if it was just for looks!

[samgreeny]

Haven't posted in a while. The project has properly begun. I have fitted the egr blanking plate and have just brought a focus st front bumper. I just need to get it resprayed.

I'm looking for a back bumper now before i get a exhaust so it looks better. I was Just wondering what is the difference between the st bumper and the standard bumper with an added zetec s diffuser. I know the diffusers are different but can't work out if anything else is different at all?

[Lenny]

Haven't posted in a while. The project has properly begun. I have fitted the egr blanking plate and have just brought a focus st front bumper. I just need to get it resprayed.

I'm looking for a back bumper now before i get a exhaust so it looks better. I was Just wondering what is the difference between the st bumper and the standard bumper with an added zetec s diffuser. I know the diffusers are different but can't work out if anything else is different at all?

The ST bumper is fatter more pronounced in its shape larger curve making it fatter,

Has side louvres on the wheel arch sections

The diffuser section clips in to the ST bumper and it sits lower than the ZetecS diffuser

The ZetecS diffuser sticks on to a standard bumper see guide:

http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/32649-focus-zetec-s-rear-skirt-diffuser-fitting-guide-pdf/?p=255361

If not stuck on with Tiger Seal it will separate at a later date like mine,

At which point you will like me wish you had just fitted an ST bumper in the first place,

Ill be changing to ST front and rear in October.

Despite me providing the bodyshop with two yes two tubes of grey Tiger Seal,

They used double sided foam tape to bond the diffuser and front lip on to the car and give me back the tiger seal when collecting the car saying they used there own stuff

See seperation:

[samgreeny]

The ST bumper is fatter more pronounced in its shape larger curve making it fatter,

Has side louvers on tge wheel arch sections

The diffuser section clips in to the ST bumper and it sits lower than the ZetecS diffuser

The ZetecS diffuser sticks on to a standard bumper see guide:

http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/32649-focus-zetec-s-rear-skirt-diffuser-fitting-guide-pdf/?p=255361

If not stuck on with Tiger Seal it will seperate at a later date like mine,

At which point you will like me wish you had just fitted an ST bumper in the first place,

Ill be changing to ST front and rear in October.

ok thanks.

Think i will try and find myself a ST bumper instead then.

[Lenny]

ok thanks.

Think i will try and find myself a ST bumper instead then.

You may prefer to purchase from a breakers but here's the one I'm watching,

Says more than 10 available brand new Genuine parts: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251740859987

I have fitted the egr blanking plate

How are you finding the car having blanked the EGR valve?

Also

Have you upgrade the induction filter yet?

No pressure, just saying it improves performance and MPG,

Ive created a guide on fitting a Green Cotton Performance induction filter link: http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/36783-green-cotton-performance-induction-filter-fitting-guide/

However I've got a K&N57s-4000 kit on the way as its bigger than stock filter with additional side vent.

[samgreeny]

You may prefer to purchase from a breakers but here's the one I'm watching,

Says more than 10 available brand new Genuine parts: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251740859987

How are you finding the car having blanked the EGR valve?

Also

Have you upgrade the induction filter yet?

Definately will be looking at a breakers or a private sale one. Don't really want to pay that price. Would much rather buy a used one that I have to do a bit of work to tbh.

[Lenny]

Definitely will be looking at a breakers or a private sale one. Don't really want to pay that price. Would much rather buy a used one that I have to do a bit of work to tbh.

No pressure mate,

I'm useless at sanding and repairing etc.

But i admire those whom can because you save a lot in the long run.

[samgreeny]

No pressure mate,

I'm useless at sanding and repairing etc.

But i admire those whom can because you save a lot in the long run.

Not feeling pressure at all now... haha

I used to be good at spray painting so hopefully can get the technique back. Will save me alot of money

[Lenny]

Not feeling pressure at all now... haha

I used to be good at spray painting so hopefully can get the technique back. Will save me alot of money

I picked up a plastic trigger style adaptor in Halfords before when having my diffuser sprayed,

I purchased the plastic gun style adaptor which fits to the top of your spray can allowing it to be held like a normal spray gun,

Perhaps easier to perform sweeping action when holding in this position i dunno,

I presented it to the body shop along with two cans of Peugeot Graphite Grey for the diffuser section,

He said it was a good yoke and well i never got it back

Here they are on eBay : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331286088782

[samgreeny]

I picked up a plastic trigger style adaptor in Halfords before when having my diffuser sprayed,

I purchased the plastic gun style adaptor which fits to the top of your spray can allowing it to be held like a normal spray gun,

Perhaps easier to perform sweeping action when holding in this position i dunno,

I presented it to the body shop along with two cans of Peugeot Graphite Grey for the diffuser section,

He said it was a good yoke and well i never got it back

Here they are on eBay : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331286088782

Hahaha! Quality!

Yeah I am going to purchase one of them when I go get the spray. They seem to be really useful from what people have said in videos

[samgreeny]

How are you finding the car having blanked the EGR valve?

Also

Have you upgrade the induction filter yet?

No pressure, just saying it improves performance and MPG,

Ive created a guide on fitting a Green Cotton Performance induction filter link: http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/36783-green-cotton-performance-induction-filter-fitting-guide/

However I've got a K&N57s-4000 kit on the way as its bigger than stock filter with additional side vent.

Completely forgot to reply to this when you posted it. Sorry mate.

Car is going really well with it on, I can feel a bit of difference with it on but id imagine I will notice more when I get an induction kit on it.

Which do you recon I should go for? The green cotton or the one you've just ordered?

[Lenny]

Completely forgot to reply to this when you posted it. Sorry mate.

Car is going really well with it on, I can feel a bit of difference with it on but id imagine I will notice more when I get an induction kit on it.

Which do you recon I should go for? The green cotton or the one you've just ordered?

No problem mate I've not been online much past few days so i wouldn't have gotten your response until now anyways,

Since the cost of the K&N57s has come down from the 395pounds it once was,

Id say go for the K&N57s kit as its got more air flow than the Green with incorporating the side port filter,

The turbo wouldn't be gasping for air at any point through out the rev range,

It may take 2-3 weeks to receive a K&N57s kit as ive heard the people at the top are working overtime manufacturing them in america to meet the European market demands,

There's a waiting list starting to form from what I'm gathering so that says a lot for the kit itself must be good,

Im currently awaiting for my uk supplier to receive a shipment from K&N in america in order for me to fit and review for the forum here.

Since your in the UK and the pound is currently very strong against the euro; it may benefit you greatly by purchasing a K&N57s kit from european-parts in Germany having it shipped in to the uk,

Last week the conversion was 61 pence = 1 euro

Heres a link: http://www.european-parts.net/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/58_82/products_id/1435

Now with all said;

If your looking for increased performance for under 100 quid the Green Cotton Performance induction filter is a great upgrade over stock,

As saw in the Guide: http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/36783-green-cotton-performance-induction-filter-fitting-guide/

It does provide increased MPG aswell as a smoother transition between gears,

Its better than any other direct replacement aftermarket induction filter in that size and superb value for money with an 80,000Mile life.

If your prepared to spend over 100quid on an upgrade induction system; i recommend the K&N57s currently based on European market demands for the item,

This opinion will change to my personal review of the 57s; when i finally get my hands on one in coming weeks.

Green Cotton Performance are beginning to market a Green cylinder filter with a side induction much of of a replica to the 57s original design but its not any bigger than the stock filter and doesn't come with a cap for plugging the side induction port in winter.

I've not saw this model of Green filter for sale in Europe yet, only on amazon from America which entails import tax's and excessive shipping fee's.

[samgreeny]

No problem mate I've not been online much past few days so i wouldn't have gotten your response until now anyways,

Since the cost of the K&N57s has come down from the 395pounds it once was,

Id say go for the K&N57s kit as its got more air flow than the Green with incorporating the side port filter,

The turbo wouldn't be gasping for air at any point through out the rev range,

It may take 2-3 weeks to receive a K&N57s kit as ive heard the people at the top are working overtime manufacturing them in america to meet the European market demands,

There's a waiting list starting to form from what I'm gathering so that says a lot for the kit itself must be good,

Im currently awaiting for my uk supplier to receive a shipment from K&N in america in order for me to fit and review for the forum here.

Since your in the UK and the pound is currently very strong against the euro; it may benefit you greatly by purchasing a K&N57s kit from european-parts in Germany having it shipped in to the uk,

Last week the conversion was 61 pence = 1 euro

Heres a link: http://www.european-parts.net/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/58_82/products_id/1435

Now with all said;

If your looking for increased performance for under 100 quid the Green Cotton Performance induction filter is a great upgrade over stock,

As saw in the Guide: http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/36783-green-cotton-performance-induction-filter-fitting-guide/

It does provide increased MPG aswell as a smoother transition between gears,

Its better than any other direct replacement aftermarket induction filter in that size and superb value for money with an 80,000Mile life.

If your prepared to spend over 100quid on an upgrade induction system; i recommend the K&N57s currently based on European market demands for the item,

This opinion will change to my personal review of the 57s; when i finally get my hands on one in coming weeks.

Green Cotton Performance are beginning to market a Green cylinder filter with a side induction much of of a replica to the 57s original design but its not any bigger than the stock filter and doesn't come with a cap for plugging the side induction port in winter.

I've not saw this model of Green filter for sale in Europe yet, only on Amazon from America which entails import tax's and excessive shipping fee's.

No worries mate.

I'm not massively fussed about how much I am spending as such, if it's worth the extra money then I may as well.

Wow, a long waiting list then. It must be a good investment for most cars that want performance then. It's a good sign when buying something there's a waiting list for it. I have seen one on amazon for £130.

I will have a look on there then mate and see which ends up cheaper.

Id imagine green cotton will be trying to get that induction kit going for a good few years before it kicks off properly with the price of the K&N57s range at the moment. It's not worth it for the price.

Cheers mate

[samgreeny]

Well I've finally got the front and back st bumpers sprayed and fitted. Loving doing up the car already.

Next I want to get an exhaust as with having the st bumper and diffuser on it looks empty at the back without an exhaust showing.

[Lenny]

Well I've finally got the front and back st bumpers sprayed and fitted. Loving doing up the car already.

Next I want to get an exhaust as with having the st bumper and diffuser on it looks empty at the back without an exhaust showing.

Looks excellent mate,

Piper Performance sell a ready built ST replica duplex exhaust in 2.5" T304 stainless steel

Id colour code the bonnet lip,

You may also like to view my guide on fitting dual reverse lighting

Link: http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/29347-guide-fitting-second-reverse-light-ford-focus-mk25/#entry158997