kenny1955 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Does any one know what new ford focus have rear disc brakes can not see it in the brochure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfa Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 The 2.0 litre diesels do. The 1.5 ecoboost petrol do. Not sure about 1.5 diesels. The 1.0 litre petrols don't. ( I have a 1.0 litre 125 Titanium. It has rear drums). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'm not sure exactly how it is worked out anymore. My mum's 1.0 125 estate has rear discs. But a 1.6 tdci estate we test drove I'm sure had drums... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8XME Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Zetec s up wards Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Zetec s up wards Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk No, titaniums get drums too depending on engine. Zetec S always get rear discs as do the largest engines, but I can't find a pattern for which of the smaller engine and non S trim specs get them... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Tango Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Any ideas on converting them from drums to discs? This a conversion I'm interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incontro Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Can't believe Ford still use drums on such an expensive & large car in this day and age, a bit of a disgrace. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Tango Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Can't believe Ford still use drums on such an expensive & large car in this day and age, a bit of a disgrace. True, even though they don't look great I have them on my car and it stops fantastically 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremyc Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Can't believe Ford still use drums on such an expensive & large car in this day and age, a bit of a disgrace. A lot cheaper than discs and pads thats the reason why! They're trying to help you with your race car by giving you the drums as they weight a lot less ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee_82 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I recently changed my drums for discs and they weigh the same, the reason they don't do is because its cheaper for them to make, course I very much doubt you will ever see that saving 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Tango Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I recently changed my drums for discs and they weigh the same, the reason they don't do is because its cheaper for them to make, course I very much doubt you will ever see that saving Any advice on how to go about rear discs it's a change I'm rather interested in, is it pretty straight forward? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Can't believe Ford still use drums on such an expensive & large car in this day and age, a bit of a disgrace. Completely agree. It was bad enough sticking them on the 1.6 TDCi back in 2008, let alone any now. Yes they're cheaper to fit new, but they'll be a pain for the rest of the cars life. They don't 'auto-adjust' as they're meant to, they stick on in the wet, and the dust has nowhere to go so builds up inside the drum. Oh, and if a pad fails you'll be able to limp it home, if a shoe fails it can lock the drum solid leaving you stranded - after a horrible personal experience! I really hate drum brakes, there isn't anything good about them at all for me. Every previous turbo diesel I've owned has discs, even my Mums 1.2 petrol Suzuki has discs. One area Ford shouldn't be skimping on imo! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Surely one good thing about drums is they can't lock on in the wet like discs do as they are sealed? The only other benefit I can think of, is they make better parking brakes than discs. That said, I still prefer the performance and feel of 4 discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremyc Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Surely one good thing about drums is they can't lock on in the wet like discs do as they are sealed? The only other benefit I can think of, is they make better parking brakes than discs. That said, I still prefer the performance and feel of 4 discs. And they're lighter and cheaper than discs and pads. Anyway guys there is a comprehensive guide on changing from drums to discs in the guide section you should all check it all out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Tango Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 And they're lighter and cheaper than discs and pads. Anyway guys there is a comprehensive guide on changing from drums to discs in the guide section you should all check it all out. Care to link it? Can't seem to find the guide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee_82 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Drums are terrible in the wet, water gets it, then binds the shoes to the drum, if its really bad it drags the wheel, god awful things. My rear left would always lock solid, had it checked out and all was fine, just one of those things, the drums where edging on the old side so decided to save the cash and install discs changing them is pretty straight forward, you will need a bunch of tools to get them off plus new brake lines, brake cable, callipers, pads, discs, disc protectors, some heat shield nuts. It really depends how much cash you have as to how easy it is, I got second hand callipers and reconned them but if you buy new itll be a lot easier. here is a copy and paste of my shopping list, I don't know if they are still for sale or not Discs and pads 47 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261328962151?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT paint 10 Brake Hoses 20 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271253043109?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Calipers with 280mm carriers 40 Hand Brake cable 24 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271583269279?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT 265mm carriers 30 new seals and nipples 30 brake fluid copper brake cleaner 12 protection plates 1233491 ++++ 17.17 shield nuts 1382642 ++++ 65p 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Tango Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Thanks for that Darren! Seems buying the individual parts will work out cheaper I was expecting to pay around £400 marker, will start buying the parts next week once my paypal is set up :D I have all the tools as my dad used to own a private garage back in the day xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW1982 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 The specifications of the Focus MK3 are different for most European markets. The specifications are based on the legal requirements and customers demand of a country. In the Netherlands and Germany for example all MK3 versions do have rear disc brakes. in some other countries the 1.6 TI-VCT and the 1.0 ECOboost (hatchback and saloon) did have rear drum brakes. The wagon has always rear disc brakes. My German spec. 2013 MK3 hatchback 1.0 ECOboost 125 HP has front and rear disc brakes as standard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Surely one good thing about drums is they can't lock on in the wet like discs do as they are sealed? The only other benefit I can think of, is they make better parking brakes than discs. That said, I still prefer the performance and feel of 4 discs. They're not water tight, so the water gets inside when you drive through a puddle, mixes with all the brake dust that cant get out and creates a horrible mess. You pull the handbrake on forcing the shoe into this damp mess which then dries and locks the drum over night. Discs just 'clunk' as a thin layer of surface rust breaks off, drums can literally lock on so hard you can drag the wheels along the road...I took my sisters Corsa half a mile down the road like this, good job she only had budget tyres lol, brought it back and had to jack it up and break out the mallet, I can guarantee a rear drum brake problem on any car I work on with that archaic system. Calipers are also much easier to free off if they ever did seize on, with a drum you'll never free that at the side of the road. They also don't make better parking brakes after the first month as they don't 'automatically' adjust properly. Yes you could manually adjust them every week and it'd be stronger than a disc handbrake, but who does that lol? I've never had an issue with disc handbrakes myself. And they're lighter and cheaper than discs and pads.They aren't. Unless you're including the caliper as well but it's rare that calipers need replacing, changing a set of discs and pads is quicker, easier and cheaper. Weight is near enough the same, would have to physically weigh them to see any difference! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Im bucking the trend on here, I prefer drums on the back, none of the cars ive owned except for an old vauxhall cavalier have I had problems with, most fords I see with drums are fairly clean, ok, the older ones had problems with adjusters not working, but later ones dont.also brakes shoes properly cleaned at service intervals, work well , drums and shoes dont wear out at the rate of discs and pads, ( ask mondeo, smax , galaxy owners about rear pad wear!! ) Ive changed more rear calipers, discs and pads, to drums and shoes. Just my opinion any way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee_82 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Im bucking the trend on here, I prefer drums on the back.........Tumble weed.... ;) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Thought I would be in the minority. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8XME Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 The only plus with drums is no brake dust :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micro Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 They also don't make better parking brakes after the first month as they don't 'automatically' adjust properly. Yes you could manually adjust them every week and it'd be stronger than a disc handbrake, but who does that lol? I've never had an issue with disc handbrakes myself. I was under the impression that handbrakes on disc systems were just small drums on the rear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee_82 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 not on the focus, its calliper has a handbrake system that clamps down on the disc, ive seen some cars with discs and a hub, but you cant hide the ugly in the room, discs look way better 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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