unofix Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, StephenFord said: we have a fine tradition of burning tires on the '11th' night Do they use petrol or diesel to get the fire started, or just park an EV next to it 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 16 minutes ago, unofix said: Do they use petrol or diesel to get the fire started, or just park an EV next to it 🤣 Just an ordinary match, on a bit of leftover Semtex 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottman Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Maybe I can start a new annual holiday here in the State’s! I just need to choose a date for the annual “EV bonfire of the insanities!” First we shall stack them up in a pyramid shape and then commence the rhythmic dancing followed by some group singing and then “passing of the cups” until everyone is well lubricated. Then we will set it ablaze and drink some more until we lose the ability to walk straight and our women misplace their clothing (except for the really ugly women,of course). After that we will fire our shotguns into the air as if to answer the explosions of battery packs with a defiant roar. By that time the fire department will arrive to hose down the celebrants and clear the area and allow the conflagration to burn itself out. God bless America and brain dead Joe Biden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 9 hours ago, Scottman said: Maybe I can start a new annual holiday here in the State’s!... Don't you do all that already, on the 4th July?? 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottman Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Yes we certainly do celebrate Independence Day. But, that is only a “partial nudity” holiday. 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linds Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 On 4/7/2024 at 10:19 AM, mjt said: We definitely should not be taking hundreds of acres of productive agricultural land out of use for solar farms. On holiday in France. I see they are roofing over (already established) supermarket car parks and covering the roofs in solar cells. Seems preferable to blighting agricultural land. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 43 minutes ago, Linds said: ... Seems preferable to blighting agricultural land. I've seen huge swathes of land covered in solar panels in USA and I find them quite aesthetically pleasing. Though I also love the look of windmills too as I find them beautiful mechanical objects, would love one in my back garden! Maybe it's just me ..... 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, StephenFord said: Though I also love the look of windmills too as I find them beautiful mechanical objects, Who wouldn't love a quaint old windmill in the back garden ? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 9 hours ago, unofix said: Who wouldn't love a quaint old windmill in the back garden ? 🤣 Where did you get that picture of me?? 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottman Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I like the “idea” of a windmill. The reality of them is that they are massively tall and when in operation make a constant roaring noise that isn’t pleasant to hear for any length of time. I think living in the landing path of a medium size airport would be less intrusive from a noise level perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 On 4/12/2024 at 7:50 PM, unofix said: Do they use petrol or diesel to get the fire started, or just park an EV next to it 🤣 No need, it was always burning since the world was turning; 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.S Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Looks like a new Focus cost the same as a small fleet of BYDs 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 8 hours ago, Alex.S said: Looks like a new Focus cost the same as a small fleet of BYDs 🤔 Ah, but ford gives you 3 year/60k mile warranty. 🤣🤣🤣 Know of one Chinese ev manufacturer now give you 10 years warranty/servicing/connected services. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 Looks as if an increasing number are realising that the emperor has no clothes... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 3 hours ago, StephenFord said: Looks as if an increasing number are realising that the emperor has no clothes... Trouble is, the various newspapers all have a "position" on this which makes it hard to get a balanced view. E.g. The Telegraph, Daily Mail and Daily Express are generally "anti", while The Independent, Guardian, etc, are "pro". I wrote to the i this week about the following article they published: https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/money/motoring/switched-electric-car-saved-7500-3044162?ico=related_article_inline As I said, it's no surprise the guy made savings by switching to a Zoe from his "old Jaguar". They didn't mention the fairly low initial price of the Zoe in 2015 was because they were then sold on a split ownership basis (you bought the car but leased the battery). I pointed out that a more valid price comparison would be between Renault's own Clio (currently from £17,995) and the last price for the Zoe (now off sale pending replacement by the new 5 EV) but last offered from £29,995. When they mention hybrid or EV they don't make any distinction between the various types of hybrid and certainly don't mention that virtually all remaining ICE cars on the market are hybrids of some type, even if only MHEV, such as the latest Suzuki Swift. So it's hardly surprising that a high %age are "considering a hybrid or EV" as there is effectively little alternative. All this stuff is little help to the private motorist who wants to balance doing the right thing for the environment with his household budget and would like clear, unbiased information on the pros and cons of the choices available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 4 hours ago, Eric Bloodaxe said: I wrote to the i this week about the following article they published: Good to see another member writing to the press, I do that frequently, though I'm sure by now my address is labelled as spam 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 19 minutes ago, StephenFord said: I'm sure by now my address is labelled as spam 😂 I wouldn't be surprised if mine is, also!😀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 8 hours ago, Eric Bloodaxe said: Trouble is, the various newspapers all have a "position" on this which makes it hard to get a balanced view. E.g. The Telegraph, Daily Mail and Daily Express are generally "anti", while The Independent, Guardian, etc, are "pro". I wrote to the i this week about the following article they published: https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/money/motoring/switched-electric-car-saved-7500-3044162?ico=related_article_inline As I said, it's no surprise the guy made savings by switching to a Zoe from his "old Jaguar". They didn't mention the fairly low initial price of the Zoe in 2015 was because they were then sold on a split ownership basis (you bought the car but leased the battery). I pointed out that a more valid price comparison would be between Renault's own Clio (currently from £17,995) and the last price for the Zoe (now off sale pending replacement by the new 5 EV) but last offered from £29,995. When they mention hybrid or EV they don't make any distinction between the various types of hybrid and certainly don't mention that virtually all remaining ICE cars on the market are hybrids of some type, even if only MHEV, such as the latest Suzuki Swift. So it's hardly surprising that a high %age are "considering a hybrid or EV" as there is effectively little alternative. All this stuff is little help to the private motorist who wants to balance doing the right thing for the environment with his household budget and would like clear, unbiased information on the pros and cons of the choices available. Trouble is whichever side of the ev debate your on , all the newspapers want is a click or two and not interested in any balanced view. Always one extreme to another , any figures can be made to fit the agenda. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted Friday at 05:04 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:04 PM I see Stellantis will be selling imported Chinese EVs (Leapmotor) through their outlets in Europe/UK in the next year or so. Apparently they hope they hope by doing so they will sell enough "zero emission" EVs to avoid penalties under ZEV mandates. No mention made of the emissions created by manufacture in a country with a huge number of coal fired power stations, steel produced by coke, etc, and shipping halfway round the world. Am I missing something? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted Friday at 05:57 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 05:57 PM 54 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said: Am I missing something? Not really, unless you haven't factored in the proposed new tariff for Chinese EVs from a new UK government, with USA already adding 100% on them! Oh, and that China has over 3000 coal fired power stations, whereas UK has 1 - no, that's not a typo, ONE LOL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted Friday at 06:22 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:22 PM 1 hour ago, Eric Bloodaxe said: Am I missing something? For balance, apparently I missed that Stellantis have taken a 20% stake in this Chinese company, and plan to assemble the smaller car in Poland. 23 minutes ago, StephenFord said: unless you haven't factored in the proposed new tariff for Chinese EVs from a new UK government, with USA already adding 100% on them! It seems they're not worried..... https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/tariffs-on-ev-imports-not-worrying-chinese-ev-manufacturers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottman Posted Saturday at 07:33 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:33 PM It will be fun to watch Stelantis learn how Chinese companies handle warranty claims and recalls. I predict that the relationship will become “rocky” at best! I believe that they are going to try to outsource their entire product development and manufacturing processes. Many people in the industry have a fascination with the idea of doing nothing but quality checks and sticking their nameplate on the boot lid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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