footfistart Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Right here's a cheeky pic of it fitted. Will do a full write up tonight as I haven't driven it yet. It took 30 minutes to remove everything and refit it and start the car to leak check the pipework. Looks good to me and I'm glad I didn't spray it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bry0586 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Looks good that. Where's the original mounted?? Sent from my XT1039 using Ford OC mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footfistart Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 It's mounted in the same place it's just remove old one and fit new one! Took me 30mins to remove everything and install everything and leak check the pipework. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bry0586 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Oooo. For some reason I thought it was higher/out of sight lol. Sent from my XT1039 using Ford OC mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Well have you driven it yet? Whats it like? Whats it like man? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footfistart Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Well I have driven it but I haven't thrashed it yet to really see what it's capable of. But first instance the car is less laggy but I haven't really driven it to really tell. But it's good really good. Well worth the money I spent. Got it for 100 and polished it and looks brand new :). A full report will be done tonight as I'm not at home as I went to my other halfs parents house as they have all the stuff. Be about 2200 when something will appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Well I have driven it but I haven't thrashed it yet to really see what it's capable of. But first instance the car is less laggy but I haven't really driven it to really tell. But it's good really good. Well worth the money I spent. Got it for 100 and polished it and looks brand new :). A full report will be done tonight as I'm not at home as I went to my other halfs parents house as they have all the stuff. Be about 2200 when something will appear.look forward to full review later mate, Would you say its much the same as the increase felt when the EGR is blanked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bry0586 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 This has probs been mentioned already but was it an intercooler off a st? Just thinking in distant future I may look at upgrading mine with it having dpf removal,egr delete n power map? Sent from my XT1039 using Ford OC mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footfistart Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Well I can't really answer any more questions as I only drove the car a few miles. I've got a 20mile trip home so I'll thrash it then. yeah first feelings more responsive but boost comes on abit later used to be about 1750 and now it's 1900. But it feels good wants to pull more. I guess simular gains again but like I said will take a little while for ecu to adjust. But as far as I'm aware money well spent and it looks the part too. Just need some distance pics to show you all. It's from an st yes but you can go bigger I recon at least 20 rows before thinking about moving the horn which I didn't need to touch. My is a direct fit and like I've said before it took me half hour to fit. This one is an 8 row cooler but it's twice as thick as the standard one. The standard is ten row but twice as thin so for the loss of rows I've gained extra thickness which will help in cooling. Bigger surface area for the air to flow through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footfistart Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 I've forgot to say I've done everything I can ie k&n57s, egr and now cooler. just need remap, exhaust sorting out and Dpf smashed out. So I reckon I'll get about 150? It's pushing it but I'm after economy but with maximum performance to go with it so maybe 140ish? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bry0586 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I'd say that's a good guestimation. I recon mines at roughly 145ish. That's with a remap which was to 140anyway but with the egr delete,dpf removed n k&n panel 145ish. Sent from my XT1039 using Ford OC mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay87 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Well I can't really answer any more questions as I only drove the car a few miles. I've got a 20mile trip home so I'll thrash it then. yeah first feelings more responsive but boost comes on abit later used to be about 1750 and now it's 1900. But it feels good wants to pull more. I guess simular gains again but like I said will take a little while for ecu to adjust. But as far as I'm aware money well spent and it looks the part too. Just need some distance pics to show you all. It's from an st yes but you can go bigger I recon at least 20 rows before thinking about moving the horn which I didn't need to touch. My is a direct fit and like I've said before it took me half hour to fit. This one is an 8 row cooler but it's twice as thick as the standard one. The standard is ten row but twice as thin so for the loss of rows I've gained extra thickness which will help in cooling. Bigger surface area for the air to flow through. Sounds good so far. The intercooler fitted on mine ony has 7 rows, i think early mk2's and even ST's had these fitted then got changed to 10/11 rows. Do you reckon there would be any benefit in changing to a standard one with more rows? You can pick them up for next to nothing so might be worth a try? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footfistart Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Yeah could give them a go why not. It's exactly the same fitment. Mine is smaller than the original but it's twice as thick. Is definitely give it ago. Just make sure you bend all the find back like I had to do. Longest job in the world but worth it. Give it a good wash inside and out to clear any crap and away you go. So bryan you've got yours mapped? Yours is a mk2 though right? I only ask because mine's a 2.5 and mapping it will enough ecu removal. How does your car feel when driving? I'd love to know from how it drive to the way it responds and accelerates. Is yours a 110 also? I think you could get more than that. Dpf should release a lot more being as it's the most restrictive part that I know of. The car will only perform as well as the most restrictive part. Have you changed your exhaust? I'm doing that cat back including Dpf gut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bry0586 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 yeah mines a mk2, as far as i know mine was just plug n remap, didnt need the ecu removed but then again i was reading my book whilst the work was being done haha. its alot more responsive and the power is more on tap, i can hear the turbo whilst more too which never gets old haha. yeah its the 110. tbh i havn't properly "thrashed" it much because ive got a weird ticking noise from 3k onwards so i tend to just not rev it high. nah the exhaust is standard, weather i change it in the future is another question lol. eventually i'll get it on a dyno and get a read out of what its running 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footfistart Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Right reviw time I think. So I've just come home had a good flooring with it and I must say it wants to pull harder. Boost come in less aggressively than it used to. Especially in first gear. It seems more progressive. Mpg wise. About the same if not slightly better. on the instant doing 70mph I get 85mpg which is about normal on flat and normally get between 70-80 on a particular road. So I'd say it's a good buy. But it still early days with it so I'll keep a report going for a while to see if anything improves. I'll post a pic of my average mpg and then give it a month and post it again to see the difference. This will be done over roughly the same journey as I use the car for mainly work involving motorways. So the install. I'm sorry that pics are not great. I wanted to get the job done. So in thirty minutes I had it all done and this is how it went. This is how it looked before it was removed. 1. Jack the car up and use an axle stand to hold the car up. I did this on the off hand side of the car but you can do it on both side. I was on the side of the road so not as much room as I wanted but hey. 2. Remove the lower grille to access jubliee clips and wind deflectors. 3. Now your car is up in the air you need to remove the fwd floor cover which is held with 4-5 torqx which are 25 size. No picture for this. Then remove the aft cover which has a few more bolts not sure how many but it's obvious when your under there. 4. Once they are off it will look like this. And you can see this. 5. Next is to remove 2x 8mm bolts which are situated on the bottom of the cooler. 6. Once they are off next will be to undo the jubliee clips 2x 7. The cooler is hung to two hangars and all it needs is lifting up two inches to clear them and out it comes looking like this. 8. Then with the new one on hand do everything in reverse and all done :) so that is not very informative but I've got more pics to show off. Here's a comparison of the two together. I'd say it's abit bigger even though it's two rows shorter. Here it is installed to the car. And with grille installed. I will get pics of it further away tomorrow I forgot to get some. So there you have it. If your thinking about tuning the car then is recommend that you remove/replace the the restrictions and swap them for more suited bits. Remap the car, sort the exhaust out whether you ha e Dpf or not, blank egr and sort induction out including this and you'll have a great car that will pull like a pulling thing and show up a few people. I recommend this 100%. I would have go e bigger but I didn't want to because of it will foul up against other bits and I isn't want to go through the haatle of removing loads of bits to do it. Also I didn't want to block the radiator from airflow as bigger ones tend to do. I hope this helps you to have a rethink about this. More pics to come over the coming week. Comments are welcome as always and any questions about this I haven't mentioned then please ask away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bry0586 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 looks good and pretty simple, i always assumed it wasn't where it is, meaning having to rework pipes etc. i have a question regarding spraying an IC, wouldn't it restrict the flow with it being sprayed say black?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsheikh Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Good job matey. Cant believe it only took 30 mins! Sent from my GT-I9505 using Ford OC mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 looks good and pretty simple, i always assumed it wasn't where it is, meaning having to rework pipes etc. i have a question regarding spraying an IC, wouldn't it restrict the flow with it being sprayed say black??not if you use a can of compressed air or hair dryer just like the guys in MightyCarMods done when painting theres "BLACK"Emphasized "BLACK" cos thats how they do it lol see video below: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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footfistart Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 I was going to do this but then I thought what's the point. I've spent all that time cleaning and making it look nice and shiny. I know there are definitely gains from stationary but I couldn't be bothered really. If there were to be massive gains in general then manufacturing companies would only make them in black. And yeah it took 30mins straight forward swap just the way it should be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bry0586 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 id paint mine black, not only for the gains said in the clip but also i think it would look better on darth, going for a dark black/red theme i think haha. got to admit ive been looking at st intercoolers on fleabay haha, you didnt need to take your front bumper off did you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footfistart Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 I like the idea of it but I decided not too. It looks the part now with the car and suits it quite well :). Nope bumper stayed on. It's very easy to do. That easy it took 30 minutes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay87 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 It looks cool, the fitting looks straight forward too. The pictures will come in handy if I ever get round to doing mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footfistart Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 So update... 68.4mpg! And climbing. In four days it's gone up nearly 1mpg. I reckon end of August I'll have 70mpg :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 So update... 68.4mpg! And climbing. In four days it's gone up nearly 1mpg. I reckon end of August I'll have 70mpg :) honda civic 5 door hybrid was boasting 72mpg mate keep it going :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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