Sloth1995 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I have a 2007 1.4 fiesta. Bought it in December. Its my first car and I didn't realise that the bite point shouldn't be that low until my dad drove it. The previous owner said he had the clutch changed in November.聽 My dad bled the clutch two weeks ago, the fluid was black. Doesn't look like the previous owner had changed it. After it was bled, the bite point was back to where it should be, we assumed the problem was fixed. But now the bite point has returned to being really low (barely have to let the pedal up).聽 Any advice would be appreciated as to what to look for/what could be wrong.聽 Thank you.聽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isetta Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 has fluid level gone down at all? is there any sign of a leak. check master cylinder inside car up above the pedal. A friend had one leaking there and making floor damp. Check the pipe connections under bonnet where it goes onto master cylinder and at other end where it goes onto slave cylinder. and check it's not leaking at bleed screw. and check there is no fluid leak under bellhousing from leaking slave cylinder. Slave cylinder is inside bellhousing so major work to get to it. most people replace the slave cylinder when replacing clutch due to work involved in fixing it at a later date if it goes. 聽Does top part of slave cylinder look new (where the bleed screw is) . My sister has had problems with her 2004 fiesta 1.4tdci with it losing clutch pedal pressure which we haven't been able to work out the cause, but it seems to happen more when hot after driven quite a bit. and then left for a while the pedal can go back to normal .聽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin#95 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On my fiesta 2004 at 80000 miles the clutch started slipping above 50 mph. The bite point was a about 3聽inches above the floor and the pedal was stiff to press. The garage fitted a new clutch and release slave cylinder. The first thing I noticed was the bite point was聽near the floor and the pedal felt soft. This is normal for new clutches. As the clutch wears the bite point gets higher and the pedal feels stiffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapparee Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Have a 2017 1.25 Fiesta, 36,000mls. After about 30 mins of town driving when I stop at junctions etc and put it in 1st the clutch reaches the bite at a very low point and the car wants to move forward very quickly, the clutch pedal can feel a bit spongy on gear changes after this happens. This can happen for a few minutes at a time but can suddenly return to normal as I drive home out of town or come out of a shop and drive it again. When I drive the car later on or the next day from cold it's always fine until moving off in town again after the usual 30 mins or so. The clutch isn't slipping, the gear changes are fine and the clutch pedal always travels back up to it's proper position. Clutch/brake fluid levels are normal which would appear to rule out the master cylinder. Just wondering if anyone has any ideas?聽 Thanks. 聽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Clutch slave cylinder is probably starting to fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapparee Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Thanks!聽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isetta Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 In case you are not aware, the slave cylinder is inside the bellhousing so gearbox has to be removed to get to the slave cylinder.聽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapparee Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Thanks. If it has to be done then it has to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 If you do go down the road of replacing the clutch slave cylinder you may as well fit a new clutch plate and release bearing at the same time while the gearbox is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapparee Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 4 hours ago, unofix said: If you do go down the road of replacing the clutch slave cylinder you may as well fit a new clutch plate and release bearing at the same time while the gearbox is out. Thanks. It's a worry as even though it's okay a lot of the time with my luck it will fail at the worst time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapparee Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/5/2022 at 10:13 PM, Rapparee said: Have a 2017 1.25 Fiesta, 36,000mls. After about 30 mins of town driving when I stop at junctions etc and put it in 1st the clutch reaches the bite at a very low point and the car wants to move forward very quickly, the clutch pedal can feel a bit spongy on gear changes after this happens. This can happen for a few minutes at a time but can suddenly return to normal as I drive home out of town or come out of a shop and drive it again. When I drive the car later on or the next day from cold it's always fine until moving off in town again after the usual 30 mins or so. The clutch isn't slipping, the gear changes are fine and the clutch pedal always travels back up to it's proper position. Clutch/brake fluid levels are normal which would appear to rule out the master cylinder. Just wondering if anyone has any ideas?聽 Thanks. 聽 My mechanic was on holiday but have it booked in for Thursday next week, drove it this morning, pulled into shopping place after about 15mins of driving. When I put it in reverse to park the bite was very low, car just wanted to shoot back, I controlled the speed reversing into the bay but when I tried to put in neutral it wouldn't come out of gear at all, gear lever locked solid. Been driving over 30 years so I knew that if that happened just to turn engine off and it freed up again. Drove it further in town and then 5mls home without incident.聽 Anyone got any further ideas as to what the problem is? My mechanic seems to thing it's damp in the gearbox however. I will tell him about what happened this morning though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, Rapparee said: My mechanic seems to thing it's damp in the gearbox I think your mechanic has 'Bats in the belfry' 馃ぃ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapparee Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 hours ago, unofix said: I think your mechanic has 'Bats in the belfry' 馃ぃ Thanks for that, but it's not at all helpful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecurry Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Perhaps the OP's mechanic means there's a fluid leak... but you say fluid levels are normal? Clutch problems are difficult to diagnose from a distance, but if the fluid level is good then perhaps the seals in the master or slave are failing, sometimes working and sometimes allowing fluid to leak past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapparee Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 6:07 PM, orangecurry said: Perhaps the OP's mechanic means there's a fluid leak... but you say fluid levels are normal? Clutch problems are difficult to diagnose from a distance, but if the fluid level is good then perhaps the seals in the master or slave are failing, sometimes working and sometimes allowing fluid to leak past. Yes, fluid is normal. It's fine from cold, drove it today from my house and all was good. 10mins on country roads in 4th and 5th, stopped at first T junction and it happened, very low bite when trying to move off in 1st. Took it out of gear then back in and it was okay. Happened a few more times in town. Leaving town and home it was driving fine. Thanks for your reply, it may be on the right track though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isetta Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Re my 2020 post about the problem with my sisters fiesta losing pedal pressure, in the end she had the whole clutch replaced including slave cylinder and release bearing ( I had already replaced master cylinder which did not fix it) . After that it has been fine. 聽Never did understand exactly what was causing the intermittent problem, particularly as there was no fluid leak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hev Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 On 3/16/2022 at 2:27 PM, Rapparee said: My mechanic was on holiday but have it booked in for Thursday next week, drove it this morning, pulled into shopping place after about 15mins of driving. When I put it in reverse to park the bite was very low, car just wanted to shoot back, I controlled the speed reversing into the bay but when I tried to put in neutral it wouldn't come out of gear at all, gear lever locked solid. Been driving over 30 years so I knew that if that happened just to turn engine off and it freed up again. Drove it further in town and then 5mls home without incident.聽 Anyone got any further ideas as to what the problem is? My mechanic seems to thing it's damp in the gearbox however. I will tell him about what happened this morning though. I had this happen recently and I needed a new clutch and master cylinder.聽 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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