Yeah noticed the option packs were a lot more too.

My Mrs puma in March time took around 3.5 weeks from build to dealership

2 hours ago, Duke178 said:

I believe its a one month free trial. The sim for it is hardwired to Vodafone and can't be changed. Which I think is very bad, because Vodafone UK is quite expensive. My other gripe is that the hotspot is only available when the engine is running 🤯

Exactly, 1 month trial, and after this period ends, the price is different for each country, for example in my country it's 20 euro/1year 200gb, but it's useless honestly since it's only in the SEE countries+Turkey, so basically, I have this in my roaming... 

2 hours ago, Plimp92 said:

Yeah the higher spec versions are all X now.

St line x still has the leather and b&o. Not clear whether there's heated seats.

I think the vignale editions will be quite rare cars.

Just had a good root through the ford webpage - first time l have since the focus / fiesta came back to build and price. Am l right in saying that diesel engines have been completely removed from all car line ups now?....

2 hours ago, Duke178 said:

It looks like UK order books are open again, no Vignale though.

Unfortunately UK only, and the options are really low compared to other trims..X it's now somehow Vignale, so yeah... 

Also, what's the purpose of that white bar in the middle? Looks really bad... They are ruining the design of the Active... 😞

Parking pack doesn’t appear to be an option on the ST line X, so no reversing camera , it’ll an option on the Vignale trim I’ve ordered.

Just been having a look, and they're a new model year now.

Focus is 23.25my and fiesta is 23my.

I guess they're intended to be ordered nowish, and delivered early next year. Focus a little later than fiesta.

Fiesta still not avail with 155 engine and you can't spec a pano roof. (UK)

Just specced my car up on the UK website, list price seems to have gone up quite a bit. Glad I ordered when i did! (even though its not here yet) 

16 hours ago, Chera said:

Also, what's the purpose of that white bar in the middle? Looks really bad... They are ruining the design of the Active... 😞

I think that's chrome trim rather than white.  Same as the PFL Active, matches the silver plastic accents on front and rear bumpers.  Those wheels look awful though.  

18 hours ago, Plimp92 said:

I think the vignale editions will be quite rare cars.

Rarity doesn't mean valuable or sought after unfortunately.  Had my Mk4 Active X Vignale Edition on Autotrader for about 4 months and didn't get a single enquiry from actual buyers.  (Just a couple from traders that aren't interested in spec.)

It does seem a bit weird that they've swapped back to X, but it does make more sense.  I never liked the Vignale name 'tagged' on to other models, taking away from the actual Vignale models.

11 hours ago, SausagMan said:

Just specced my car up on the UK website, list price seems to have gone up quite a bit. Glad I ordered when i did! (even though its not here yet) 

Where have you found the list prices?  Doesn't seem to be working for me!

27 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

Where have you found the list prices?  Doesn't seem to be working for me!

Just on ford.co.uk - built the car to my spec, must be a 10% if not more price increase. 

32 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

Where have you found the list prices?  Doesn't seem to be working for me!

Seems to be under the "Build & Price" section. I found it here...

https://www.ford.co.uk/shop/build-your-ford/ice#/model?catalogId=WAEGB-CGE-2022-FocusMCAGBR202325

I've been waiting for the order books to open to put in an order myself, and like SausagMan has mentioned, the prices have definitely gone up! I could fully spec a manual green estate ST for less than £40k (everything apart from the sunroof and tow bar), but now it's £38k before any additional extras. 

And on that note, what happened to the performance pack? I'm not seeing it in the extras at all!

 

Base prices have definitely increased by around 10% on some trims. Just specced my ST-line on the configurator and can notice the big difference.

As it's now 'X' at the end of some models, I'm fully expecting a Vignale model to be released, possibly next year, maybe having the rear-view camera as standard (as that's not even an option anymore) and the upgraded lights.

1 hour ago, TomsFocus said:

I think that's chrome trim rather than white.  Same as the PFL Active, matches the silver plastic accents on front and rear bumpers.  Those wheels look awful though.  

Yeah those rims have a ***** like look to them. The styles were better before the facelift. 
 

I still love the Active. If I lived in a rural area, this would be my go to vehicle 

41 minutes ago, Coley666 said:

Seems to be under the "Build & Price" section. I found it here...

https://www.ford.co.uk/shop/build-your-ford/ice#/model?catalogId=WAEGB-CGE-2022-FocusMCAGBR202325

I've been waiting for the order books to open to put in an order myself, and like SausagMan has mentioned, the prices have definitely gone up! I could fully spec a manual green estate ST for less than £40k (everything apart from the sunroof and tow bar), but now it's £38k before any additional extras. 

And on that note, what happened to the performance pack? I'm not seeing it in the extras at all!

 

LSD is looking like its available as standard on the ST now......perhaps ford have thought there's no need for the performance pack option any more! - pity for those of you like shift indicators and the big 'S' button on the steering wheel! - never mind the launch control - ford seem to have forgotten this?!!.....

9 minutes ago, simon401982 said:

LSD is looking like its available as standard on the ST now......perhaps ford have thought there's no need for the performance pack option any more! - pity for those of you like shift indicators and the big 'S' button on the steering wheel! - never mind the launch control - ford seem to have forgotten this?!!.....

The LSD was there in the April price list, along with the performance pack option (track mode, CCD, launch control / rev matching). But it looks like it's a hatchback only addition, which I was sure was available on the estate before! 

Looks like they've also added to the hatchback an "ST track pack" - black painted roof, door mirrors, spoiler, rear diffuser. Brembo front brakes 363mm (Vs the 330mm standard), adjustable performance coil over suspension and Pirelli P Zero tyres... For an extra £3k!

Now I'm feeling like not even bothering. Estate getting shafted once again 😔

1 hour ago, Coley666 said:

Seems to be under the "Build & Price" section. I found it here...

https://www.ford.co.uk/shop/build-your-ford/ice#/model?catalogId=WAEGB-CGE-2022-FocusMCAGBR202325

 

Thanks.  Not sure what happened earlier as it kept saying 'page not available' or something when I clicked any of the trim buttons. 

6 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

Thanks.  Not sure what happened earlier as it kept saying 'page not available' or something when I clicked any of the trim buttons. 

I've been having a few "not currently available" issues whilst flicking back and forth between specs/extras etc. I guess the page is seeing some traffic though 😅

*EDIT* And I saw the error of my ways regarding the Performance pack - It is 5-door / hatchback option only 🙄 But let's not be silly, I'm still going to end up ordering an estate 😍

Just now, Coley666 said:

I've been having a few "not currently available" issues whilst flicking back and forth between specs/extras etc. I guess the page is seeing some traffic though 😅

All from this thread probably!  

Just specced an Active X as close as I can to my 18 month old PFL Active Vignale...£34,220 RRP! 😮 That's around 30% increase!!

 

58 minutes ago, Coley666 said:

The LSD was there in the April price list, along with the performance pack option (track mode, CCD, launch control / rev matching). But it looks like it's a hatchback only addition, which I was sure was available on the estate before! 

Looks like they've also added to the hatchback an "ST track pack" - black painted roof, door mirrors, spoiler, rear diffuser. Brembo front brakes 363mm (Vs the 330mm standard), adjustable performance coil over suspension and Pirelli P Zero tyres... For an extra £3k!

Now I'm feeling like not even bothering. Estate getting shafted once again 😔

Ah,that makes some sense l suppose? - but having estates before, l also would feel their getting a little shafted too! !......

35 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

All from this thread probably!  

Just specced an Active X as close as I can to my 18 month old PFL Active Vignale...£34,220 RRP! 😮 That's around 30% increase!!

 

Same spec ST estate is coming in at "only" £450 more, but this takes it over the £40k mark! (heads up display, blind spot, driver assist, parking, hands free tailgate)
The base price seems to be an extra £1,000 or so, and then your optional extras all have had a good 10% bump too! All of them seem to be an extra £50 compared to the pricelist put out from April (https://www.ford.co.uk/content/dam/guxeu/uk/documents/price-list/cars/PL-New_Focus.pdf)

I get though given the current state of the world, cost of living, war in Ukraine etc. we're all seeing a price increase! Is this sync 4 really costing them that much more?

21 minutes ago, simon401982 said:

Ah,that makes some sense l suppose? - but having estates before, l also would feel their getting a little shafted too! !......

I get why they don't have the CCD, but to remove the rev matching/launch control/track mode altogether is disappointing. I love the look of teh estate, and currently own a Mk3.5 estate. An estate with a wife and 2 young kids also makes life a lot easier! 😄 

Alas, it makes it £850 (was £800) cheaper! 😅 Silver linings eh?

 

14 hours ago, SausagMan said:

Just specced my car up on the UK website, list price seems to have gone up quite a bit. Glad I ordered when i did! (even though its not here yet) 

Hey when did you put our order in? do you have an estimated delivery date? Curious on current lead times...

The dutch Ford-site offers 2 pricinglists:

• Style: Titanium, ST-Line, Active (Titanium Estate being the only diesel)
• Normal: Titanium (X), ST-Line (X), ST-X (Titanium X Estate being the only diesel)

Connected and Vignale are gone. 10% increase.

Oh, and an indicative price increase of €1200 per januari 2023 for the hybrids